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Buying a car in Canada 2021 - getting a deal, and the process?

Old Nov 23rd 2021, 3:21 pm
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I'm glad you like the Tucson

The car market (both new and used) is still crazy with no sign of slowing down in Canada. F150's have been hit hard.

This thread on reddit made me laugh, dealer in Oakland, California with a +$40k mark up on a RAV4 Prime

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So to update this - I got a Tucson hybrid- over the moon with it.

Now looking at getting an F150 to accompany it - annoyed at the lack of deals and found my old thread.

Really wondering if the demand for new cars will drop off at all - looking at 7 months+ on a factory order F150 - a few new cars on lots but only there for a day or 2 and are doing over sticker, vehicles with 10-15k on them are doing sticker price.
my husband works at a Ford dealership (tech). They are struggling to get stock, new and used. What comes in is generally sold straight away. Sometimes it's sold before it's arrived. They are even keeping stuff to sell that they usually send to auction. He's been working on a maserati. He never wants one lol.
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my husband works at a Ford dealership (tech). They are struggling to get stock, new and used. What comes in is generally sold straight away. Sometimes it's sold before it's arrived. They are even keeping stuff to sell that they usually send to auction. He's been working on a maserati. He never wants one lol.
Ask him if they have any stock of those 'EcoSport' models

I heard they cannot give them away.
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Ask him if they have any stock of those 'EcoSport' models

I heard they cannot give them away.
Shurrup you

When we returned to Oz in 2018 we bought a 2016 EcoSport. I think it was about 8 months later that we received the letter about the class action court case. Still haven't heard the verdict, the case finished quite a few months ago but the judge hasn't released the decision yet.

Having said all that, I love the vehicle. Never given us a hiccup of trouble and is just the right size for scouse, I and a couple of suitcases.
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Originally Posted by Piff Poff View Post
my husband works at a Ford dealership (tech). They are struggling to get stock, new and used. What comes in is generally sold straight away. Sometimes it's sold before it's arrived. They are even keeping stuff to sell that they usually send to auction. He's been working on a maserati. He never wants one lol.
Driving past car dealerships in Toronto…the lots are mostly empty.
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Shurrup you
Don't mind me, I drive a VW Golf TDI that was recalled for cheating the diesel emissions test. If you read the reviews you'd think it was one of the most unreliable vehicles ever made, but it's never let me down....yet.

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Don't mind me, I drive a VW Golf TDI that was recalled for cheating the diesel emissions test. If you read the reviews you'd think it was one of the most unreliable vehicles ever made, but it's never let me down....yet.
I think we both need to find a bit of wood to touch

Because Ford's fessed up to the faults in the EcoSport (and others), all the judge needs to decide is the amount of compensation/recompense for affected owners. Might be enough to buy a new car*!



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Ask him if they have any stock of those 'EcoSport' models

I heard they cannot give them away.
That's is actually the last Ford he would suggest. Says they are terrible things. They are being discontinued. Parts are already hard to get for them. In fact a salesman lost a deal by trying to get a customer (someone I know) into something else. Just didn't want to sell the eco sport.
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That's is actually the last Ford he would suggest. Says they are terrible things. They are being discontinued. Parts are already hard to get for them. In fact a salesman lost a deal by trying to get a customer (someone I know) into something else. Just didn't want to sell the eco sport.
I've just googled the Eco Sport and I think I have one. Generic hatchback thingy, hybrid, does 80mpg, paid next to nothing for it. Came with 40,000 clics has 130,000 now, hasn't been used since covid as it's for commuting. It's quite dull but no more so than an automatic RAV4 or CRV, it's comfy, it has heated leather seats, it's cheap as chips to operate. I wouldn't drive it on a sunny Sunday but that's not what it's for. What's the matter with them?
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Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily (just a joke, don't take seriously.)

Dodge = 'Dead Or Dying Garbage Emitter (Less of a joke, but only because everyone I ever met with a Dodge complains about it being of not good quality, but never owned one.)

I have only owned a Chevy and a Mazda long term, about 15 years apart, Chevy was fine, Mazda we have curious to see how long it goes before something major goes and it gets shipped to the junk yard or sold for scrap, so far 170,000km and 10 years old almost and going strong.




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Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily (just a joke, don't take seriously.)
I think the last Found On Road Dead Mustang convertible might have been the best car I've had. Picked it up with 45,000 miles, ran it summer and winter (top up in winter), sideways in the snow. Had 190,000 miles on it when I T boned a Toyota Highlander at 60 mph. Crumpled perfectly, we climbed out the windows and walked away. Would have bought another but there wasn't a good one available that week,
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I've just googled the Eco Sport and I think I have one. Generic hatchback thingy, hybrid, does 80mpg, paid next to nothing for it. Came with 40,000 clics has 130,000 now, hasn't been used since covid as it's for commuting. It's quite dull but no more so than an automatic RAV4 or CRV, it's comfy, it has heated leather seats, it's cheap as chips to operate. I wouldn't drive it on a sunny Sunday but that's not what it's for. What's the matter with them?
OH hates them more than the Escape. Must be problematic or very plasticky or a nightmare to work on or not a nice drive... who knows, baffles me what's a goodun and a badun sometimes. I say oh I quite like x vehicle, does it come with manual and I either get oh we'll see what's about or I get grumble grumble, nope.
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Driving past car dealerships in Toronto…the lots are mostly empty.
yep same for quite a few in Hamilton too. You’d be forgiven for thinking that the dealerships had closed down. We bought a brand new electric vehicle in April that was delivered in June…that same vehicle now has waits until October 2022. In the unusual situation now where if we were to sell it we’d probably come out with the loan paid in full and some cash to spare.
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I've just googled the Eco Sport and I think I have one. Generic hatchback thingy, hybrid, does 80mpg, paid next to nothing for it. Came with 40,000 clics has 130,000 now, hasn't been used since covid as it's for commuting. It's quite dull but no more so than an automatic RAV4 or CRV, it's comfy, it has heated leather seats, it's cheap as chips to operate. I wouldn't drive it on a sunny Sunday but that's not what it's for. What's the matter with them?
This is the model we have, which is one of the ones in the class action. Ford have admitted the faults, decision awaited on compensation.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/ford/ec...titanium--1--5

Info on the faults and the (Oz) class action here.
Between 2011 and mid-2016, Ford sold approximately 70,000 Focus, Fiesta and Ecosport vehicles fitted with a PowerShift dual-clutch transmission in Australia. PowerShift was meant to be “the transmission of the future”. However, owners of PowerShift vehicles experienced many problems, including shuddering, juddering, delayed and jerky acceleration, and non-starting. Ford has now admitted the existence of various “quality issues” with the transmissions, relating to defective seals, clutch material and transmission control units.
https://www.fordclassaction.net/

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This is the model we have, which is one of the ones in the class action. Ford have admitted the faults, decision awaited on compensation.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/ford/ec...titanium--1--5

Info on the faults and the (Oz) class action here.
Between 2011 and mid-2016, Ford sold approximately 70,000 Focus, Fiesta and Ecosport vehicles fitted with a PowerShift dual-clutch transmission in Australia. PowerShift was meant to be “the transmission of the future”. However, owners of PowerShift vehicles experienced many problems, including shuddering, juddering, delayed and jerky acceleration, and non-starting. Ford has now admitted the existence of various “quality issues” with the transmissions, relating to defective seals, clutch material and transmission control units.
https://www.fordclassaction.net/

Oh my, perhaps I don't have that transmission or perhaps I'm just have such low expectations of automatics that I don't notice.
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