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Old Jul 6th 2005, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
Until the politicians have the guts to take on the Corporate giants ..................

But that would need all countries to follow the same rules. Aint going to happen is it.
Amen to that. The other side of the coin though is that Corp G provides the work, without which we had all better gather firewood, and start learning how to rub sticks together. There's a long cold winter ahead!
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Amen to that. The other side of the coin though is that Corp G provides the work, without which we had all better gather firewood, and start learning how to rub sticks together. There's a long cold winter ahead!
Er...excuse me..when was the last time you saw a CEO rolling up the sleeves to clean the toilets out?

Companies need staff, as they need leaders. The fact is that most Corps prefer to self regulate in places like Afirica. That means employing good labour at cheap prices - hence no development as the assetts are removed via profits to line the banks of share holders. I have known a few people who rove the world looking for targets. Low cost, adapaptable workforce and the promise of high profits. Once the workforce start to demand higher pay another plant is opened in another country. We all know it goes on but until there is a limit on profit and WORLD regulation 'nuttins gonna change'

It wont be in my lifetime.

Perhaps by the time India and China etc catch up commercially en mass, there will be less hiding places for such Corps.

Can you see Starship Enterprise coming over the horizon?

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The other side of the coin though is that Corp G provides the work, without which we had all better gather firewood, and start learning how to rub sticks together.
Au contraire, Corp G's mainly generate 'crap' which is surplus to peoples genuine needs, and panders more to their wants, based on marketing and sales activity - more push less pull. 'Pull' is the nicer, less obvious marketing method but still odious.

Majority of recent additional UK personal debt has been through purchase of 'wants' (AKA crap) not needs. Future humanity (if there is any such thing after G.W.B. has finished trashing the environment) will look back at this period of history as being the great corporate/marketing con act carried out against the masses. With extra government sponsorship added in.

Of course, if everyone stopped responding to the marketing and selling of crap and just bought what they needed the economy would suffer, as crap is more profitable and easier to shift than genuine needs. Most crap is ridiculously-created 'ingenuity and innovation' spun out junk.

Time to wise up on the five D's: Declutter. Downsize. Dump the SUV. Duck out of the rat race. Do it.

Eek I'm ranting again. oh well when the oil and gas runs out we will be rubbing sticks together and huddling in small communities, and eating local food, and working locally, and living close to work, and pulling together to resist the raging unlawful mobs. :scared: but of course G.W.B. is praying that the god of alternative technology comes up with some kind of wonder fuel. LOL complete madness indeed. :

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Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
Perhaps by the time India and China etc catch up commercially en mass, there will be less hiding places for such Corps.
Ah, don't worry, the looming energy crisis will see to their growth well and truly stunted.

Got to get more oil.....time to invade Iran, they got nuclear stuff, ya know

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Er...excuse me..when was the last time you saw a CEO rolling up the sleeves to clean the toilets out?

Companies need staff, as they need leaders. The fact is that most Corps prefer to self regulate in places like Afirica. That means employing good labour at cheap prices - hence no development as the assetts are removed via profits to line the banks of share holders. I have known a few people who rove the world looking for targets. Low cost, adapaptable workforce and the promise of high profits. Once the workforce start to demand higher pay another plant is opened in another country. We all know it goes on but until there is a limit on profit and WORLD regulation 'nuttins gonna change'

It wont be in my lifetime.

Perhaps by the time India and China etc catch up commercially en mass, there will be less hiding places for such Corps.

Can you see Starship Enterprise coming over the horizon?
Agreed on most points. 'Rubbing sticks' was supposed to be an oversimplification in case you missed it, and was meant to be a way of saying that we can't go backwards, or even 'mark time' for very long. ie we must live with the devil we know. Not a first choice maybe, but until we find a way to outsmart the globetrotting corporate porkers whose 'smarts' - at what they do for a living - way outsmart the abilities of most of the rest of us, about all we can do is rail against the most flagrant of their excesses in whatever ways we hope may affect their bottom lines. Even then, we aren't guaranteed success.
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until we find a way to outsmart the globetrotting corporate porkers whose 'smarts' - at what they do for a living - way outsmart the abilities of most of the rest of us
It's easy: you just have to be willing to pay 500 pounds for a British-made DVD player rather than 30 pounds for an equivalent DVD player made in China.
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It's easy: you just have to be willing to pay 500 pounds for a British-made DVD player rather than 30 pounds for an equivalent DVD player made in China.
If it lasts 17 times longer you get a bargain.
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If it lasts 17 times longer you get a bargain.
Not if your Chinese DVD player lasts five years... they'll be obsolete by then anyway.
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Not if your Chinese DVD player lasts five years... they'll be obsolete by then anyway.
You wouldn't know that though unless you bought both together.
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