Breed Specific Legislation - Staffordshire Bull Terriers
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Re: Breed Specific Legislation - Staffordshire Bull Terriers
[QUOTE=Butch Cassidy;7771717]Are you sure Sam? I thought I'd seen one advertised as a pit-bull type last time I was in registering my 27 Tosa\rottie\akita crosses.
If it's Pitt Bull they won't adopt it out. If it's a mixture of things it gets away with it and gets adopted. If its a stray Pitt Bull and the owner comes forward they get it back !!!!!!!!
If it's Pitt Bull they won't adopt it out. If it's a mixture of things it gets away with it and gets adopted. If its a stray Pitt Bull and the owner comes forward they get it back !!!!!!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleontology
Nope the second one distinctly shows some bird (sorry fledermaus ) digging up fossils.
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Thanks all for your continued input. The Russian / Oil thing is surely worthy of further investigation and I'm guessing it would be fairly straight forward to get the addresses of HR personnel in the oil companies (Both production and exploration). On the archaeology side of things am I correct in thinking that Drumheller is close to Dinosaur National Park? at least thats what it was called when I visited it way back in the 80's whilst on R&R, if so it is indeed Palaentology, fascinating stuff but not were my degree lies unfortunately, not by several million years at least I have lots of transferable skills and also already have a healthy pension linked to my military service so I would literally be willing to do ALMOST anything (Please no smut) Money as they say is not everything
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The Tyrrell Museum is in Drumheller..........internationally renowned Dinasour thing
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Any dog of any breed can be aggressive when in the hands of morons who either abuse/neglect the animal or dont provide with proper training and socialization.
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
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Re: Breed Specific Legislation - Staffordshire Bull Terriers
Any dog of any breed can be aggressive when in the hands of morons who either abuse/neglect the animal or dont provide with proper training and socialization.
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
Interesting article.
Surely this does show that some breeds are more vicious than others? Even though vicious is not a popular term on here....................
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From the stats in this link it is obvious which are the two most dangerous dogs - pit bulls and rottweilers!
Any dog of any breed can be aggressive when in the hands of morons who either abuse/neglect the animal or dont provide with proper training and socialization.
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
Once the government starts banning breeds who is to say where its gonna stop, eliminate pit bulls and some new breed will take its place.
"Although fatal attacks on humans
appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type
dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates."
"Breed-specific legislation does not
address the fact that a dog of any breed can become
dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. From
a scientific point of view, we are unaware of any formal evaluation of the effectiveness of breed-specific legislation
in preventing fatal or nonfatal dog bites."
"However, breeds responsible for human dog bite-related fatalities have varied over time."
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
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This is one of three serious/fatal attacks on children in the last few years.
I have to say, however, Pit Bulls are by far the most common dogs I see in lower end places I have to work in. There seems to be a peculiar relationship between drug users and these animals. (No implication in respect of the OP intended at all). I loathe these dogs, they serve no function other than that for which they were originally bred - to fight. That makes them dangerous, and more unpredictable than most other breeds. This coming from a dog lover and a wolf-cross owner.
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/...ack041228.html
This is one of three serious/fatal attacks on children in the last few years.
I have to say, however, Pit Bulls are by far the most common dogs I see in lower end places I have to work in. There seems to be a peculiar relationship between drug users and these animals. (No implication in respect of the OP intended at all). I loathe these dogs, they serve no function other than that for which they were originally bred - to fight. That makes them dangerous, and more unpredictable than most other breeds. This coming from a dog lover and a wolf-cross owner.
This is one of three serious/fatal attacks on children in the last few years.
I have to say, however, Pit Bulls are by far the most common dogs I see in lower end places I have to work in. There seems to be a peculiar relationship between drug users and these animals. (No implication in respect of the OP intended at all). I loathe these dogs, they serve no function other than that for which they were originally bred - to fight. That makes them dangerous, and more unpredictable than most other breeds. This coming from a dog lover and a wolf-cross owner.
All dogs have the ability to turn nasty, and this breed has the unfortunate luck of being in the hands of morons more then other breeds do but when raised properly, and trained they can make good pets.
Better to enforce existing laws and make new laws and deal with specific owners and animals vs banning entire breeds and calling every animal aggressive or dangerous.
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I am going to add a bit here about aggressive dogs I am a vet nurse, I worked for many years in an Ontario vet hosp before moving to UK. I have seen both nasty dogs and mean owners or stupid and un-informed in most cases.
ALL dogs will bite if threatened or hurt, but an aggressive dog is more prone to bite then not. Dogs at one time were bred for a certain purpose, german shepherds for herding, terriers are rat dogs, labs are retrievers, you get the point.
It is unfortunate but staffs are bred for fighting, to be mean and aggressive. Someone mentioned about more labs biting then staffs, well be fair, more people OWN labs then staffs, so yes incidents of biting will be higher, but % wise, I would NEVER own a staff I have seen so many unprovoked attacks on humans and other animals by staffs, more so then any other breed.
you can raise them in the most loving of homes, give them obedience lessons, but it is by nature to be aggressive.
It is unfortunate that all staffs are judged by the ones in the news, sad but true they are bred for aggressiveness
ALL dogs will bite if threatened or hurt, but an aggressive dog is more prone to bite then not. Dogs at one time were bred for a certain purpose, german shepherds for herding, terriers are rat dogs, labs are retrievers, you get the point.
It is unfortunate but staffs are bred for fighting, to be mean and aggressive. Someone mentioned about more labs biting then staffs, well be fair, more people OWN labs then staffs, so yes incidents of biting will be higher, but % wise, I would NEVER own a staff I have seen so many unprovoked attacks on humans and other animals by staffs, more so then any other breed.
you can raise them in the most loving of homes, give them obedience lessons, but it is by nature to be aggressive.
It is unfortunate that all staffs are judged by the ones in the news, sad but true they are bred for aggressiveness
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Interesting points here, though it shows that these Breed Specific Legislations also serve to generate fear and predjudice toward dogs such as my own for no other reason than she happens to be a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Dingbat you say that you "loathe these dogs", I assume that you mean the so called "Pit Bull Types"? That you see them often in the "lower end places" in which you have to work, well thats as maybe, but here's the thing, not all owners of bull terriers are "morons" and "drug dealers" (and yes I realise you excluded the OP but it still resonates) my wife and are are middle class University educated professionals, our dog is a much loved, well socialised part of our family.
Punish the owners of dogs that actually carry out these attacks, all to often the dog is euthanised and the owner seems to go unpunished.
And CdnShaz I am surprised that a veterinary nurse has such views but then again we are all entitled to our opinion are we not?
Punish the owners of dogs that actually carry out these attacks, all to often the dog is euthanised and the owner seems to go unpunished.
And CdnShaz I am surprised that a veterinary nurse has such views but then again we are all entitled to our opinion are we not?
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I merely speak of my own experiences working with these dogs, and seeing the damage.
The difference between a staff bite and most typical bites is the staff locks its jaws upon biting, so not as easy to get the dog off the victim, where as say a lab bite, they bite and let go.
Most owners are responsible and loving, but it is also the ummmm not so responsible owners that make this breed look bad.
I'm sure there are good ones as well as bad, again only speak from my experience of working with this breed, which I have probably seen more of them over the years then the typical staff owner has.
The difference between a staff bite and most typical bites is the staff locks its jaws upon biting, so not as easy to get the dog off the victim, where as say a lab bite, they bite and let go.
Most owners are responsible and loving, but it is also the ummmm not so responsible owners that make this breed look bad.
I'm sure there are good ones as well as bad, again only speak from my experience of working with this breed, which I have probably seen more of them over the years then the typical staff owner has.
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Think this thread has run it's course now, we can argue the rights and wrongs till we are all blue in the face. The bottom line is that we will be unable to move to Ontario even though my wife has job contacts there.
We will have to take a step back and look at other options.
We will have to take a step back and look at other options.