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Posidrive Nov 13th 2005 7:40 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
What's a "lake community" ? It sounds like a circle of houses backing on to a lake where the house owners jointly own the lake. If so, is the lake typically natural, dug for the purpose, or as in suburban Toronto, a disused gravel pit ?

That's pretty much it. You have other houses in the community, but the guys with buckets of money get to back onto the lake and be eaten by the Mossies.

Most around Calgary are around man made lakes, although ours in Cochrane is around two natural lakes. Sadly we are among the poor sods who couldnt afford to back onto the lake.

Judy in Calgary Nov 13th 2005 7:42 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
What's a "lake community" ? It sounds like a circle of houses backing on to a lake where the house owners jointly own the lake.

Correct.


If so, is the lake typically natural, dug for the purpose, or as in suburban Toronto, a disused gravel pit ?
In Calgary's case, such lakes are dug for the purpose.

I remember hearing, somewhere back in the mists of time, that in Canada the crown owns natural water frontage. The practical effect of that is that the public has access to natural beaches. People who own property adjacent to a natural beach may not exclude other people from that beach.

I have done a quick Google search in an attempt to verify that. In the time I have available for the search, I have not found a relevant link.

Edited to add this clarification.

In any event, property owners in Calgary's man-made lakeside communities (and their guests) have exclusive access to their respective lakes.

This gets kind of complicated. Not every man-made lake in Calgary is privately owned by the community that surrounds it. The Glenmore Reservoir, the dam on the Elow River that supplies half of Calgary's water, is a man-made but public dam. However, the Glenmore Reservoir is considerably bigger than the other man-made lakes in Calgary. The Glenmore Reservoir is surrounded by not just one but several communities.

dbd33 Nov 13th 2005 8:43 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Correct.

In Calgary's case, such lakes are dug for the purpose.

I remember hearing, somewhere back in the mists of time, that in Canada the crown owns natural water frontage. The practical effect of that is that the public has access to natural beaches. People who own property adjacent to a natural beach may not exclude other people from that beach.

I have done a quick Google search in an attempt to verify that. In the time I have available for the search, I have not found a relevant link.

Edited to add this clarification.

In any event, property owners in Calgary's man-made lakeside communities (and their guests) have exclusive access to their respective lakes.

This gets kind of complicated. Not every man-made lake in Calgary is privately owned by the community that surrounds it. The Glenmore Reservoir, the dam on the Elow River that supplies half of Calgary's water, is a man-made but public dam. However, the Glenmore Reservoir is considerably bigger than the other man-made lakes in Calgary. The Glenmore Reservoir is surrounded by not just one but several communities.


Ah, thank you. That wouldn't appeal to me at all.

The idea that the Crown owns the waterfront is one I've read here before. I don't think it can be true or, if it is, exceptions are granted willy-nilly.

Posidrive Nov 13th 2005 8:45 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
I remember hearing, somewhere back in the mists of time, that in Canada the crown owns natural water frontage. The practical effect of that is that the public has access to natural beaches. People who own property adjacent to a natural beach may not exclude other people from that beach.

That probably explains why there are walkways between the lakes and lake view properties on the Monterra devlopment.

CalgaryBlade Nov 13th 2005 4:24 pm

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
What's a "lake community" ? It sounds like a circle of houses backing on to a lake where the house owners jointly own the lake. If so, is the lake typically natural, dug for the purpose, or as in suburban Toronto, a disused gravel pit ?

As you are from Ontario I feel it is my duty to inform you that these "lakes" are not lakes as you might know them. A more accurate description would be "pond communities" (just thinking back to vacations on the shore of Huron and experiencing waves, and not being able to see the other shore).

But, if you like blue-green algae then "whatever floats your boat".

Here's another new community:

http://www.auburnbay-community.com/frame_main.html

"Welcome to cottage country" - Give me a break!

Cowtown Nov 13th 2005 4:36 pm

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by ross&carolyn
we looked at houses in older areas that had lovely gardens but in the end decided to go for a newer house with a smaller garden because we wanted to live near familys with younger kids, there didn't seem to be many in the old areas, more older kids and retired people. Our house backs onto a green open space so it doesn't matter about the size of our garden as our children are always out the back playing in the park.
The house 2 doors up is for sale, big 4 bedrooms up and backing onto the same park $309

We are in an older area: nice big lot, backs onto a green space, not overlooked, two schools within a couple of minutes and loads of children in the community (as shown by the school being full!) and other children living on the street (nice quiet one too).

An older community doesnt always mean no children. It would be short sighted to assume that this is always the case.

Cowtown Nov 13th 2005 4:40 pm

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by ross&carolyn
ha ha $309K

I live in somerset the house 2 doors up is mls c3191565.

Its a great place to live its been fantastic having the big green area behind us with the playpark, the kids were able to make loads of friends before they started school in September. The school is a 2 minute walk so my daughter can walk home as well which is great.

What grade is your daughter in?

finallygotout Nov 14th 2005 12:23 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
As you are from Ontario I feel it is my duty to inform you that these "lakes" are not lakes as you might know them. A more accurate description would be "pond communities" (just thinking back to vacations on the shore of Huron and experiencing waves, and not being able to see the other shore).

But, if you like blue-green algae then "whatever floats your boat".

Here's another new community:

http://www.auburnbay-community.com/frame_main.html

"Welcome to cottage country" - Give me a break!


As nice as some of those houses are, how come they don't have front porches?

dbd33 Nov 14th 2005 2:54 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
"Welcome to cottage country" - Give me a break!

Real estate English cracks me up. Last week's local paper included an ad for a house that had been "gently eased into the 20th century". I took that to mean that the plumbing was from 1905.

Cowtown Nov 14th 2005 7:49 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by finallygotout
As nice as some of those houses are, how come they don't have front porches?

You didnt look too hard I suspect:

http://www.auburnbay-community.com/frame_330s_albi.html

I dont think a front porch would be my biggest concern. I would be asking how far my children get bussed to school!

Cowtown Nov 14th 2005 7:56 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
As you are from Ontario I feel it is my duty to inform you that these "lakes" are not lakes as you might know them. A more accurate description would be "pond communities" (just thinking back to vacations on the shore of Huron and experiencing waves, and not being able to see the other shore).

But, if you like blue-green algae then "whatever floats your boat".

Here's another new community:

http://www.auburnbay-community.com/frame_main.html

"Welcome to cottage country" - Give me a break!

Auburn Bay 'lake' is predicted (because its not there yet) to be 43 acres of fresh water (ie tap water and rain). If you look at the photo here you get the idea

http://www.auburnbay-community.com/f..._overview.html

iaink Nov 14th 2005 8:01 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 
Certainly around here the waterfront property is not owned by the crown....although there are certain road allowances following the original lot and concession line plan that cross into the waterfront and are deemed as public access.

Many people here with land affected by these allowances have succeeded going to the council and closing off the allowances where there is obviously no road or prospect of a road being built. There are still a few allowances around though that lead down to the river...if you know where to look for them. TO the uninitiated though it all looks like private property.

Crown land is a bit of an oddity, my wife insists that just cos its crown land, regular members of the public have no rights of access. Not sure if its true or not...as far as I can tell its not unless there is a specific usage permit on the land..but I dont want to argue with her though!

ross&carolyn Nov 14th 2005 2:46 pm

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by Cowtown
What grade is your daughter in?

grade four

Cowtown Nov 15th 2005 2:08 am

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by ross&carolyn
grade four

So do you have a school place sorted for next year?

Cowtown Nov 15th 2005 4:30 pm

Re: Big garden in Calgary
 

Originally Posted by ross&carolyn
grade four


Originally Posted by ross&carolyn
I have found the schools on the whole very good here.

In Calgary they have normal run of the mill schools and then schools that specialize in different ways of learning like the science school, montessori,all girls and the creative arts school my son goes to. The facilities are fantastic, separate dance studio,drama studio and art studio. He gets to sing, dance ,act ,play the drums,learn journalism,garage band. He wouldn't have anything like this in the UK without paying for it!

I find my daughters school is probably a bit slower paced but I suppose they are at school longer here so maybe thats why??

I get it now! You dont worry about the local school being K to 4 only as you use an out of community specialist school after grade four. Are you planning on applying for the Arts program for your daughter also.


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