BBC article on UK immigration
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by tableland
I thought there would be more Brits in Canada actually. I was quite surprised because Canada is geographically and demographically bigger than Australia yet had only 600,000 Brits to Australia's 1.3 million.
Not that this is a bad thing.
Not that this is a bad thing.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by Madmac
I put it down to having to drive on the 'wrong' side of the road here: scares people off. Lol
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by iaink
That and the fact its a dark frozen wilderness for 6 months of the year.
...and when you combine both factors, it's easy to see why the sunshine of the Gold coast beckons to more folk.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
If you begin to pick through the threads of information coming through now you will see some of those with some form of social concern that the net inflow and the degree of outflow as per type is taking the affect of making the rich RICHER and the poor POORER as the low income types are being replaced with even lower income types. The 'Corporates' are having a laugh as if Bloke 'A' won't do there are plenty who will for half the pay even if English is not there first or even second language. No issues with the poor immigrants doing well as far as I am concerned but I have issues with Politicians who claim it is for the good of all. Bollocks is it. This quick influx will create more and more denser Ghetto type areas that I was starting to see coming along in what were 'ordinary' areas. Why Ghetto - because if these people are paid less they can afford less and will end up living in groups in the run down areas...but that is and will spread out to the fringes of the middle classes of Britania. Then it will be 'My God' I did not think 'They' would need to live quite so close to us as that. Quick someone call Tony. Answer comes back that person is no longer available at the above address.
You reap what you sow. And you can only benefit for so long. Controlled 'people movement' should make the world better equiped in the long-run but not if it gets to piss off those that are not being considered who were there first. What is bad though is that those that create the situation can afford to retire quietly to the Caribbean or South of France whilst pontificating on what all the anger in the UK during the period 2020-2050 is really all about.
You might hear them say whilst sipping a vodka martini basking in the warm meditteranean sun 'My God what more do these working class people want - they should feel lucky to be British - is that not enough'.
I could expand on the British work ethics and productivity which perhaps explains much about why the Politicians and large corporates with their greedy shareholders prefer hard working non-english speaking 'foreigners' to the locals. But I keep will that banter for the friends at the Times.
You reap what you sow. And you can only benefit for so long. Controlled 'people movement' should make the world better equiped in the long-run but not if it gets to piss off those that are not being considered who were there first. What is bad though is that those that create the situation can afford to retire quietly to the Caribbean or South of France whilst pontificating on what all the anger in the UK during the period 2020-2050 is really all about.
You might hear them say whilst sipping a vodka martini basking in the warm meditteranean sun 'My God what more do these working class people want - they should feel lucky to be British - is that not enough'.
I could expand on the British work ethics and productivity which perhaps explains much about why the Politicians and large corporates with their greedy shareholders prefer hard working non-english speaking 'foreigners' to the locals. But I keep will that banter for the friends at the Times.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by iaink
Whos figures are they anyway, or did the BBC comission them?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6193494.stm
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by tableland
Out of all the Western democracies, only Australia has so far managed to reverse the birth-rate decline across the whole population, and it did this by paying people to have babies - something which the governments of Britain and others should pay attention to.
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Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
If you begin to pick through the threads of information coming through now you will see some of those with some form of social concern that the net inflow and the degree of outflow as per type is taking the affect of making the rich RICHER and the poor POORER as the low income types are being replaced with even lower income types. The 'Corporates' are having a laugh as if Bloke 'A' won't do there are plenty who will for half the pay even if English is not there first or even second language. No issues with the poor immigrants doing well as far as I am concerned but I have issues with Politicians who claim it is for the good of all. Bollocks is it. This quick influx will create more and more denser Ghetto type areas that I was starting to see coming along in what were 'ordinary' areas. Why Ghetto - because if these people are paid less they can afford less and will end up living in groups in the run down areas...but that is and will spread out to the fringes of the middle classes of Britania. Then it will be 'My God' I did not think 'They' would need to live quite so close to us as that. Quick someone call Tony. Answer comes back that person is no longer available at the above address.
You reap what you sow. And you can only benefit for so long. Controlled 'people movement' should make the world better equiped in the long-run but not if it gets to piss off those that are not being considered who were there first. What is bad though is that those that create the situation can afford to retire quietly to the Caribbean or South of France whilst pontificating on what all the anger in the UK during the period 2020-2050 is really all about.
You might hear them say whilst sipping a vodka martini basking in the warm meditteranean sun 'My God what more do these working class people want - they should feel lucky to be British - is that not enough'.
I could expand on the British work ethics and productivity which perhaps explains much about why the Politicians and large corporates with their greedy shareholders prefer hard working non-english speaking 'foreigners' to the locals. But I keep will that banter for the friends at the Times.
You reap what you sow. And you can only benefit for so long. Controlled 'people movement' should make the world better equiped in the long-run but not if it gets to piss off those that are not being considered who were there first. What is bad though is that those that create the situation can afford to retire quietly to the Caribbean or South of France whilst pontificating on what all the anger in the UK during the period 2020-2050 is really all about.
You might hear them say whilst sipping a vodka martini basking in the warm meditteranean sun 'My God what more do these working class people want - they should feel lucky to be British - is that not enough'.
I could expand on the British work ethics and productivity which perhaps explains much about why the Politicians and large corporates with their greedy shareholders prefer hard working non-english speaking 'foreigners' to the locals. But I keep will that banter for the friends at the Times.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
If you begin to pick through the threads of information coming through now you will see some of those with some form of social concern that the net inflow and the degree of outflow as per type is taking the affect of making the rich RICHER and the poor POORER
The 'Corporates' are having a laugh as if Bloke 'A' won't do there are plenty who will for half the pay even if English is not there first or even second language.
I have issues with Politicians who claim it is for the good of all. Bollocks is it.
This quick influx will create more and more denser Ghetto type areas that I was starting to see coming along in what were 'ordinary' areas.
You reap what you sow.
I could expand on the British work ethics and productivity which perhaps explains much about why the Politicians and large corporates with their greedy shareholders prefer hard working non-english speaking 'foreigners' to the locals. But I keep will that banter for the friends at the Times.
K.
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Originally Posted by AnyaT
Quebec pays people to have babies (or used to, not sure if the policy is still in effect) - the amount received goes up with each child, so you might get $500 for the first one but a couple thousand for the third. It has one of the lowest birth rates in the Western world, something like 1.2 kids per family. Various studies have been done on why birth rates decline and they generally find that as women's education levels and access to social programs such as state-supported daycare increase, the birth rate falls irreversibly. Attempting to bribe people into having children has been shown not to work. Consider the US - it has (I think) the highest birth rate of all the Western countries and the least amount of government programming.
Last edited by Tableland; Dec 13th 2006 at 7:41 pm.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by kt0157
Nonsense. The rich have got richer faster than the poor have got richer. I don't see any kids on the streets dressed in rags playing with a hoop and stick. I do see kids with mobiles phones and PSPs, though.
K.
K.
Spelling etc....yes, although you point score on such a mute point you again place youself in a certain category. I applogise for not giving a rats arse for making such mistakes here.
Why do people note these things?
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
Didn't Enoch Powell tell us that there would be ghettos and rivers of blood some decades ago? He was wrong then. Why is it different now?
Bringing into the picture such a horrible man perhaps makes any discussion of the detrimental side of immigration, emigration...whatever, seem as though it is something we must not thing about.
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Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
With respect your points do not place you into what ine might call the average person.
Spelling etc....yes, although you point score on such a mute point you again place youself in a certain category. I applogise for not giving a rats arse for making such mistakes here.
Why do people note these things?
Spelling etc....yes, although you point score on such a mute point you again place youself in a certain category. I applogise for not giving a rats arse for making such mistakes here.
Why do people note these things?
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Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
I would have thought with such a wealth of knowledge that you seem to have you would know not to compare today with what was going on in the 60's. Very different climate and totally different outcome.
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by dbd33
I try to ignore such things and don't pick up on typos. "Mute point" however drives me crazy, of course it's mute, it's written on a page innit!
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Re: BBC article on UK immigration
Originally Posted by SANDRAPAUL
Why do people note these things?
K.