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R I C H Mar 13th 2014 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11170618)
I always think of the folks who vote for Rob Ford.

That might not be far from the truth.

Dulciusexasperis made some incorrect assumptions. The business wasn't located in Sun Peaks, it was in a rural farming area to the east of Kamloops. Certainly not what he described to me as a 'trophy neighbourhood' by any stretch of the imagination.

I had clients that ranged from wealthy business people to individuals that struggled to make ends meet. It was exclusively the middle classes that appeared obsessed about financial affairs - the demographic he appears to describe as average.

I've been taken aback by financial questions I've been asked about businesses and assets I've owned, by people I barely know. If I were to classify them, they are the middle classes obsessed with keeping up with their neighbours, and suffering an inferiority complex. The wealthy, successful individuals I am acquainted with tend to be far more subtle in their approach - they don't have anything to prove.

I think an almost life long Canadian citizen is unable to have a truly objective view on how an average individual appears to an immigrant. My experience is that Canadians are far more nosey about someone's financial affairs than I experienced in Europe. They are more direct asking what something is worth, what it costs, or how much money you make. It feels intrusive and uncomfortable.

Oakvillian Mar 13th 2014 7:55 am

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Dulcius Exasperating reminds me, inexplicably, of Michael Jopling's put-down of Michael Heseltine, as recounted by Alan Clark. Jopling, a properly toffish Old Tory peer, was dismissive of Heseltine's self-made wealth with "The trouble with Michael is that he had to buy all his furniture."

Oakvillian Mar 13th 2014 8:02 am

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To return somewhere near the point, though: Abby, if your OH will be working in the TD Centre then anywhere within striking distance of the Lakeshore GO line will serve you well. While other GO lines will get him into and out of town in rush hour, the Lakeshore runs more frequent peak services and has trains all day, instead of reducing to a bus service in off-peak hours.

As others have pointed out, you get more for your money eastwards towards Whitby/Ajax/Pickering/Oshawa than west through Mississauga/Oakville/Burlington, for a broadly similar commute time.

If you don't want to get a second car just for his commute to and from the GO parking lot, try a search in each community based around distance from the station, or at least take a look at city bus routes. Most municipalities outside the benighted Toronto Transit Commission area have well established co-pay schemes and are integrated with the same PRESTO system that GO uses (a bit like Oyster in London).

Dulciusexasperis Mar 13th 2014 11:00 am

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Umm, Rich, the middle classes do not live east of Kamloops. That's about as in the sticks as you can get. It is entirely possible however that Sun Peaks condo owners would be from the middle class. Well, lower middle class anyway.

What business was it you have these clients in? For example, if you are a hairdresser what people talk to you about and ask about will be entirely different than if you are their auto mechanic.

The middle class in Toronto do not vote for Rod Ford. The working class elected him. http://torontoist.com/2010/10/which_...who_for_mayor/

R I C H Mar 13th 2014 11:43 am

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Originally Posted by Dulciusexasperis (Post 11172042)
Umm, Rich, the middle classes do not live east of Kamloops. That's about as in the sticks as you can get. It is entirely possible however that Sun Peaks condo owners would be from the middle class. Well, lower middle class anyway.

What business was it you have these clients in? For example, if you are a hairdresser what people talk to you about and ask about will be entirely different than if you are their auto mechanic.


You're illustrating an ignorance about Kamloops. In the sticks? Hardly, I was still in city limits. Downtown was under 20 minutes away. Barnhartvale is an area of small to medium sized acreages, property prices $350k to c$1m. Middle class by most definitions.

I owned an equestrian business. Clients covered a wide variety of professions; teachers, cops, store workers, self-employed small and medium business owners, students, admin/office staff etc.

I don't understand the point you're attempting to make - my experience can't be refuted by your assumptions.

Novocastrian Mar 13th 2014 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11172091)
You're illustrating an ignorance about Kamloops. In the sticks? Hardly, I was still in city limits. Downtown was under 20 minutes away. Barnhartvale is an area of small to medium sized acreages, property prices $350k to c$1m. Middle class by most definitions.

I owned an equestrian business. Clients covered a wide variety of professions; teachers, cops, store workers, self-employed small and medium business owners, students, admin/office staff etc.

Not a lot of *ankers, then?

R I C H Mar 13th 2014 11:58 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11172093)
Not a lot of *ankers, then?

Caught out a neighbour's young farm employee in the bushes by the creek pump house one summer, but generally, no. Just nosey *uckers.

rivingtonpike Mar 13th 2014 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11172091)
You're illustrating an ignorance about Kamloops. In the sticks? Hardly, I was still in city limits. Downtown was under 20 minutes away. Barnhartvale is an area of small to medium sized acreages, property prices $350k to c$1m. Middle class by most definitions.

I owned an equestrian business. Clients covered a wide variety of professions; teachers, cops, store workers, self-employed small and medium business owners, students, admin/office staff etc.

I don't understand the point you're attempting to make - my experience can't be refuted by your assumptions.

El Dulci is ignorant of NOTHING! All the libraries and learning institutions of Canada face towards his house in the same way all church altars face East.

Tirytory Mar 13th 2014 12:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Dulciusexasperis (Post 11172042)
Umm, Rich, the middle classes do not live east of Kamloops. That's about as in the sticks as you can get. It is entirely possible however that Sun Peaks condo owners would be from the middle class. Well, lower middle class anyway.

What business was it you have these clients in? For example, if you are a hairdresser what people talk to you about and ask about will be entirely different than if you are their auto mechanic.

The middle class in Toronto do not vote for Rod Ford. The working class elected him. http://torontoist.com/2010/10/which_...who_for_mayor/


Don't feed the troll....clearly trying to wind up with his lower, middle middle class categories. Dulcius so last year might be a better op name.

Novocastrian Mar 13th 2014 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11172116)
El Dulci is ignorant of NOTHING! All the libraries and learning institutions of Canada face towards his house in the same way all church altars face East.

Do they? I didn't know that.* Perhaps He Who Knows All can explain.

* do church altars in say China also face east?

rivingtonpike Mar 13th 2014 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11172122)
Do they? I didn't know that.* Perhaps He Who Knows All can explain.

* do church altars in say China also face east?




That's a good question. All Christian churches in the Western world certainly face East - towards Jerusalem. I suppose Chinese Christian churches, if they face East, will eventually be facing Jerusalem too.

Novocastrian Mar 13th 2014 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11172126)
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That's a good question. All Christian churches in the Western world certainly face East - towards Jerusalem. I suppose Chinese Christian churches, if they face East, will eventually be facing Jerusalem too.

:) That's just saying a broken clock is right twice a day. And equally true.

Edit: But what about churches in Moscow? Moscow is almost exactly due North of Jerusalem.

rivingtonpike Mar 13th 2014 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11172130)
:) That's just saying a broken clock is right twice a day. And equally true.

Just not sure what the accepted convention on church orientation is for those to the East of Jerusalem. In my experience one size generally fits all for the Christian church. They've never struck me as being big on adaptation or variation.

dbd33 Mar 13th 2014 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Dulciusexasperis (Post 11172042)
The middle class in Toronto do not vote for Rod Ford. The working class elected him. http://torontoist.com/2010/10/which_...who_for_mayor/

Your map shows, with gobsmacking vividity, that the people of Toronto didn't vote for Ford. The people outside Toronto, in the GTA in general, voted for him as they voted for Mike Harris before him.

bats Mar 14th 2014 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11172130)
:) That's just saying a broken clock is right twice a day. And equally true.

Edit: But what about churches in Moscow? Moscow is almost exactly due North of Jerusalem.

I've googled this as it appeals to the useless information centre of my brain. The altar is located in the east part of the church for Eastern Orthodox, Armenian, Roman Catholic, and Anglican churches. They are not facing Jerusalem in the same way that Muslims face Mecca or Jews face Jerusalem when praying.


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