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Old Jan 24th 2021, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Yep, had that problem too. Lucky I know what's there and have a copy.

Somewhere.
You guys are "doing me nervous" as the Norwegians might say.
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Old Feb 3rd 2021, 2:03 pm
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P60's? Wow, why would I have kept those?
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P60's? Wow, why would I have kept those?
I may have got this wrong but I recall reading somewhere that one is supposed to keep 16 years worth of tax records, primarily P60s.
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Old Feb 3rd 2021, 2:32 pm
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Hmmm, now that I never knew. However, I've been in Canada for just over 16 years now and was a computer contractor for 15 years prior to that. Actually I kept a lot but finally got rid of everything when I downsized 18 months ago!
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I contacted them and told them it wasn't possible for me to apply by filling out the forms and mailing - and was sent an email telling me to apply by phone!
Those forms are a nightmare.. I can't remember the address I lived at and my place of work 40+ years ago!
What does one do if one doesn't have such addresses ? Do they check ?

I can get my state pension forecast , and NIC paid easily enough online- but there are some years I don't know how teh NIC's were paid- would HMRC have that info ?
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Old Feb 3rd 2021, 10:26 pm
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What does one do if one doesn't have such addresses ? Do they check ?

I can get my state pension forecast , and NIC paid easily enough online- but there are some years I don't know how teh NIC's were paid- would HMRC have that info ?
They would do if the employer did what they should and did it properly.
From an earlier reply - But imagine someone applying for the pension, in full knowledge that they always worked and their pay slips back then always showed a deduction for NI, so they think everything is okay, and then they're one of those unfortunate people who worked for a dodgy employer who either pocketed the contributions or was just such a bad record keeper that the contributions were passed on but without the necessary identifying details so they were never credited to their account.

Simple example - the employer deducts £xxx worth of NI conts from the wages of 10 employees. When they pass this on instead of 10 names and the corresponding 10 NINOs, somehow there are only 9 names and numbers. Or someone's name and NINO shows up twice. One of the nine has had the money deducted but not credited.
Since then, the company may have gone out of business, records lost/destroyed,etc but old Inland Revenue/HMRC records show 10 lots of NI conts from that employer but only 9 recipients. Or maybe the shady owner retired to Brazil (or faked going overboard on his ship ) and pocketed the contributions from one or even all ten.

If you are 'the one' then maybe you can tell them who you worked for, where it was and when and maybe they are able to tally it with the other nine.
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Originally Posted by morpeth
What does one do if one doesn't have such addresses ? Do they check ?

I can get my state pension forecast , and NIC paid easily enough online- but there are some years I don't know how teh NIC's were paid- would HMRC have that info ?
I just entered what I could remember and put question marks for the rest., I could remember street names but not sure of numbers etc. Sent it off, never had any questions. It's obvious they had it all on file anyway otherwise how woukd they have their records.
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what about the section around working abroad- did anyone have any issues with them trying to take off CPP to bolster the UK side? not sure how that works
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Quick update on my claim -

As of last week I had still heard nothing, so I phoned the DWP. Eventually learned that my claim had been approved on 25th February (4 months after it was received) and a back payment made. A letter had been posted to me but I was told to expect a 28 day delay in receiving this, which is odd as the return of my supporting documents took less than 7 days. Check with World First - no payment. Eventually they found a payment had been made, missing my reference which I had specifically asked on my claim form be included. Not knowing who the payment was intended for WF sent the funds back to the DWP, on the same day.
Called the DWP again last Wednesday, no trace showing. During that conversation I also gave new bank details (as WF are ceasing private trading in April). WF then sent me a tracker showing that the Government's bank had received the payment late on February 26. Called DWP again today, advised them if the info I had received. They said that the "suspension" of payment would be lifted and, having repeated the new bank details, we agreed how this (& future) payments should be made.. I await the funds later this week...but not holding my breath.

ETA: Average call waiting time (after the recorded messages and twice repeated menu), 20 minutes - that's if you are lucky enough to get in the queue, and that's not guaranteed!
For balance - the 4 members of staff I spoke to we're all extremely helpful.

2nd edit: Emailed the DWP 10 days ago. Received an automated response "we normally reply within 10 working days" - so no response yet. 10 working days!

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Sent my application registered mail yesterday. I had it ready 2 weeks ago. I triple-checked it yesterday morning before going to the post office to make sure I hadn't missed anything. But today I realized I didn't check if I had signed and dated it! I was going back and forth on that part. I was scared to send it any earlier than exactly 4 months prior to my birthdate in case they checked the postal date. Well, nothing I can do about it now.

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Originally Posted by CDNReturner
Sent my application registered mail yesterday. I had it ready 2 weeks ago. I triple-checked it yesterday morning before going to the post office to make sure I hadn't missed anything. But today I realized I didn't check if I had signed and dated it! I was going back and forth on that part. I was scared to send it any earlier than exactly 4 months prior to my birthdate in case they checked the postal date. Well, nothing I can do about it now.
Well, I am sure that if there is anything wrong, you will hear PDQ! If its all in order however...
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