Anyone Heard Of This?
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Anyone Heard Of This?
My (potential) Canadian employer seems to have gotten it into his head that if his LMO application is succesful then he has to pay for the cost of getting me over to Manitoba.
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
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My (potential) Canadian employer seems to have gotten it into his head that if his LMO application is succesful then he has to pay for the cost of getting me over to Manitoba.
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
That said, I have a mate who has all expenses paid including moving costs so it's not TOO unusual.
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In 2005 my employer in Ontario gave me $5000 moving expenses. This time around in 2008 zilch. But I ate the costs no problem because I saw the recession coming and wanted the hell out of dodge as fast as possible so it was worth it. I reckon mostly it's unusual though.
That said, I have a mate who has all expenses paid including moving costs so it's not TOO unusual.
That said, I have a mate who has all expenses paid including moving costs so it's not TOO unusual.
He must have got this from someone, he actually wrote it into my contract of employment. I told him that I neither want nor expect him to pay for this as we have already budgeted for transit costs.
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What gets me though is that I will be employed as a food process operator, not some IT whizz kid .
He must have got this from someone, he actually wrote it into my contract of employment. I told him that I neither want nor expect him to pay for this as we have already budgeted for transit costs.
He must have got this from someone, he actually wrote it into my contract of employment. I told him that I neither want nor expect him to pay for this as we have already budgeted for transit costs.
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But in response to your original enquiry, your potential employer in Manitoba has his head up his ass.
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What gets me though is that I will be employed as a food process operator, not some IT whizz kid .
He must have got this from someone, he actually wrote it into my contract of employment. I told him that I neither want nor expect him to pay for this as we have already budgeted for transit costs.
He must have got this from someone, he actually wrote it into my contract of employment. I told him that I neither want nor expect him to pay for this as we have already budgeted for transit costs.
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My (potential) Canadian employer seems to have gotten it into his head that if his LMO application is succesful then he has to pay for the cost of getting me over to Manitoba.
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
As the title says, has anyone else come across this cause I seem to have missed it if it is standard procedure?
Cheers...
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yup pay your airfare there, and back at the end of your TWP.its the law...but of course you might talk to your new employer and come to an agreement ....nudge nudge wink wink...
I should add ,,it only applies if you are on a TWP.
and before anyone says its BS ,I was due my airfare to be paid when i came over(on a 2yr TWP) but to smooth things out with my employer i decieded to pay my own way ,mainly so i would not be beholding to my new employer.
james.
I should add ,,it only applies if you are on a TWP.
and before anyone says its BS ,I was due my airfare to be paid when i came over(on a 2yr TWP) but to smooth things out with my employer i decieded to pay my own way ,mainly so i would not be beholding to my new employer.
james.
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it depends on the NOC level..if or if not airfaire has to be paid.
In order to get a posivitive LMO for
Noc C and D :
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...llft_tfw.shtml
Employers must also meet the following provisions of the Pilot Project:
•Sign an employment contract outlining wages, duties, and conditions related to the transportation, accommodation, health and occupational safety of the foreign worker;
•Cover all recruitment costs related to hiring the foreign worker;
•Ensure that there is suitable and affordable accommodation for the worker;
•Pay the foreign worker’s airfare to and from Canada;
•Provide medical coverage until the worker is eligible for provincial health insurance coverage;
•Register the worker under the appropriate provincial workers’ compensation and/or workplace safety insurance plans; and
•Indicate on the contract, when an offer of employment is for longer than 12 months, that wages will be reviewed and adjusted, if necessary, at the end of a year to ensure prevailing wage rates are being respected
so putting it in the contract is a very smart move for a positive LMO I am thinking.
Ilse
In order to get a posivitive LMO for
Noc C and D :
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...llft_tfw.shtml
Employers must also meet the following provisions of the Pilot Project:
•Sign an employment contract outlining wages, duties, and conditions related to the transportation, accommodation, health and occupational safety of the foreign worker;
•Cover all recruitment costs related to hiring the foreign worker;
•Ensure that there is suitable and affordable accommodation for the worker;
•Pay the foreign worker’s airfare to and from Canada;
•Provide medical coverage until the worker is eligible for provincial health insurance coverage;
•Register the worker under the appropriate provincial workers’ compensation and/or workplace safety insurance plans; and
•Indicate on the contract, when an offer of employment is for longer than 12 months, that wages will be reviewed and adjusted, if necessary, at the end of a year to ensure prevailing wage rates are being respected
so putting it in the contract is a very smart move for a positive LMO I am thinking.
Ilse
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Hello Ilse,
Long time no mail, as you can see we are still in the game. This 3rd LMO application will be at 6 weeks this coming Tuesday. If we had any nails left we would still be biting them .
Can't help but think that if you were advising our employer in LMO applications then we would have been there by now. The EDO for our destination has moved to a different job and there is a new EDO who we haven't contacted yet.
I suppose it will save us CAD$1600 that I am sure my OH can find a use for .
Thanks Ilse and Jamesmc.
Long time no mail, as you can see we are still in the game. This 3rd LMO application will be at 6 weeks this coming Tuesday. If we had any nails left we would still be biting them .
Can't help but think that if you were advising our employer in LMO applications then we would have been there by now. The EDO for our destination has moved to a different job and there is a new EDO who we haven't contacted yet.
I suppose it will save us CAD$1600 that I am sure my OH can find a use for .
Thanks Ilse and Jamesmc.
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I am going to PEI, my employer provided me with a LMO and have offered to help with finding a place put deposit down etc to be taken out my first wage packet (but I have managed myself)
They have not offered any moving costs, I'm just grateful for the opportunity to move to canada and the Job (its trades/technical)
I think the employers obligation is only to assist you if you need help not to fund your move, unless they offer relocation as a sway to get you to join there company during contract negotiations.
They have not offered any moving costs, I'm just grateful for the opportunity to move to canada and the Job (its trades/technical)
I think the employers obligation is only to assist you if you need help not to fund your move, unless they offer relocation as a sway to get you to join there company during contract negotiations.
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Hi there,
Very interesting reading here......never knew anything about the employer paying your flights or anything else for that matter. That would be a really big help if it were the case though. We just forked out over 1,000 dollars since February to have OH's credentials recognised (450.00 to manitoba) and (450.00 to Alberta), so if we could get OH's flights covered it would be like "manna" from Heaven. When OH had interview in Winnipeg there was no mention of paying for flights but they did say they would help with finding place to live, and with open LMO for Alberta there certainly hasn't been any mention of flying us over. I would really like to see what the final answer on this one is......6 weeks and still waiting....surely you will hear something this week. Truly hope so.I totally know what you guys are going through. We are still meeting constant hurdles even with the Alberta open LMO. Nothing is simple and anyone who thinks LMO is the easy option needs their heads examined. I am so jealous of other posters on the boards who have gotten their LMOs within 3 - 4 weeks and inter-company transfers even quicker. They don't know how lucky they are. Please update us as soon as you hear something cos I am praying for you guys as much as I am for ourselves. Take care. Linda
Very interesting reading here......never knew anything about the employer paying your flights or anything else for that matter. That would be a really big help if it were the case though. We just forked out over 1,000 dollars since February to have OH's credentials recognised (450.00 to manitoba) and (450.00 to Alberta), so if we could get OH's flights covered it would be like "manna" from Heaven. When OH had interview in Winnipeg there was no mention of paying for flights but they did say they would help with finding place to live, and with open LMO for Alberta there certainly hasn't been any mention of flying us over. I would really like to see what the final answer on this one is......6 weeks and still waiting....surely you will hear something this week. Truly hope so.I totally know what you guys are going through. We are still meeting constant hurdles even with the Alberta open LMO. Nothing is simple and anyone who thinks LMO is the easy option needs their heads examined. I am so jealous of other posters on the boards who have gotten their LMOs within 3 - 4 weeks and inter-company transfers even quicker. They don't know how lucky they are. Please update us as soon as you hear something cos I am praying for you guys as much as I am for ourselves. Take care. Linda