Originally Posted by Haylee32 (Post 11848983)

I've been here a little over two years, I was granted PR last November, I have a well paid job, great apartment downtown and I have made a decision to go back to London (UK).

My life will not be as comfortable as it is here (anyone who has ever lived in London knows how tough it is) but to me living in Toronto is soul destroying. I find people to be completely different and rather cold and very reserved, dating sucks too, I find Canadian men to be extremely passive and bland, even in my company nobody expects anything from anyone and it's always the bare minimum that gets done. It's like mediocrity is being encouraged and there is no place for individuality or over achievers. I never see Canadians discussing politics or any current events, nobody's interested in anything.

Toronto is great for a quiet family living. Not for young energetic ambitious individuals.

I don't want to offend anyone, these are my personal observations and I realize many people won't agree with me but I was wondering if anyone felt similar.

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11849059)

You'd kind of expect that in a country's major city. Canada has to be one the most dull and uninspiring cultures ever invented. I had the misfortune of having to teach courses in a MA program that had both US and Canadian students. The Americans pissed all over the Canadians when it came to depth of knowledge, creativity and willingness to work hard. The one thing they excelled at was moaning about having to do any work.

Originally Posted by Haylee32 (Post 11849053)

I don't agree, I think financially Toronto is million times more affordable than London.

Originally Posted by Haylee32 (Post 11849094)

I see the exact same trend in my office. Huge office, lots of people, no common sense and no imagination, complaints to HR all the time about smallest silly things because people are scared to talk to each other about things that bother them.

Originally Posted by ChrisBan (Post 11849121)

Toronto great for quiet family living? Have I missed something?

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11849098)

It'd be tolerable if they understood and were honest about their shortcomings but they seem to have built up a myth about how great they are that has no bearing on reality. The best they can really come up with is to point out the occasional Canadian in the film or entertainment industry. "Oooh look, he/she's Canadian eh?" :rofl:

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11849202)

Once you accept and realize Canada isnt the same as whatever country your from its a more tolerable place.

With such a small population over such a huge land mass, Canada just wont have the same offerings.

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11849229)

there are choices, from Monaco or Mongolia

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li...lation_density

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11849229)

...Monaco or Mongolia...

Originally Posted by Haylee32 (Post 11849053)

I don't agree, I think financially Toronto is million times more affordable than London.

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 11849500)

My daughter is 21. We are encouraging her to travel. I see her at 21 and compare what she is doing to what I was doing at that age - She needs to go and experience some life. Thankfully she wants to travel! Admittedly we do live in Red Deer so o comparison to Toronto, but there is nothing here for young adults apart from early marriage and babies and getting nails done. YAWN.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11849507)

I did a fair amount of travel in my early 20's, but wish I had done more, mostly more out of North America travel.

That said I got to fly free or nearly free, had it not been for that would have been impossible to travel due to high cost.

I think many young people would like to travel more then they do, they just lack the funds to leave this continent and such.

I haven't figured out if UK and Australian youth are better off money wise, or if they are just all wealthy vs their Canadian and US counterparts.

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11849559)

From my experience of global travelling in my late teens and early 20's, and more recently as an employer of similarly aged individuals (mostly Aussies, Kiwis, and Europeans), I wouldn't say US counterparts aren't any less well off at all. They generally appear more insular (less adventurous) and reluctant to make the commitment (lifestyle compromises) that travel/work require at that age.

The vast majority that I employ live hand to mouth each month, save a little to fund experiences and further travel they have ambition for. All the Americans I've employed have been funded by the bank of Mum and Dad, live in expensive slope-side condos for the season and appear far more privileged.