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Old Jan 30th 2011, 9:07 pm
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I returned to the UK last march after 6.5 yrs with the Ottawa Police and have since rejoined my old force. I would recommend Ottawa,Halton,peel and Niagara police services. OPP is good too but you could end up anywhere in Ontario inc remote area's

.If you get through the ATS testing, interview, physch, medical remember to negotiate annual leave, starting pay, sick benefits. If you don't ask you won't get!

Expect to do your time on the road, I was able to get in the fraud squad after 3 years, but was one of the luckier ones. However as the other posts have already stated Brits tend to be well thought of by most forces but not all!

Good luck. send me a PM if you need more detailed info on the job in Ontario
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Old Jan 31st 2011, 6:25 pm
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Hey.

We are planning on a move to Toronto. Does anyone know the procedure for applying for the Police, i.e for the applicant testing service for Ontario do I have to wait until I am perm res before I can apply for constable testing, or can I apply and do the test without first getting the PR visa?

Wife is main applicant.

The completed theory test last for 3 years.

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Dale 31- Police Officer
The Police here is a lot different than in Britain. For one they are paid SERIOUS money, and there are a lot of perks that come with the job. Its different here as the Police seem to be a higher authority than Britain, nobody messes with them and they DONT have a sense of humor. As its such a good social status and well paid there are literally thousands of applicants for a few places. Normally recruits have attended a 3 year University course on policing then have to pay to take the entry exams.

I would say Dale that you might get lucky with Toronto and if you provide proven track records, make sure you get recommendations then you might stand a small chance. The best think to be is a visible minority or female, WASPS can find it hard.
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Old Jan 31st 2011, 8:00 pm
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The Police here is a lot different than in Britain. For one they are paid SERIOUS money, and there are a lot of perks that come with the job. Its different here as the Police seem to be a higher authority than Britain, nobody messes with them and they DONT have a sense of humor.
I think this is accurate enough.

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As its such a good social status
In the sense of being well paid, sure. In the sense of being respected and thought valuable to society then surely not, the police socialise only with each other and live far away from the areas they police, precisely because they don't enjoy a high level of social status.
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Old Jan 31st 2011, 8:26 pm
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I work as a security Guard in Niagara Region, we regularly have a k9 unit in from the Niagara police on training. They always complain about everything, especially the money and most of them are on nearly $90,000 per year! were on minimum wage and there such asses they make sure they rub it in, they always expect us to buy the Timmy's as we are only security guards and there the big shots.. once we had a break in, some guys were confronted and dropped the stuff they were robbing. When the police came we told them which road they had gone down and gave them the evidence they had dropped which was work lots of money, they drove off in the wrong direction and we heard nothing else ever even when we phoned they said it had never happened.

I have a serious axe to grind with the cops round here, if I were you I would stick to Toronto the only place a cop has ever seemed to smile or be nice to me or my friends. Its true they hang out only with themselves round here because everyone knows there asses, I for one would never want to be in the same pub as one. Rant over sorry!!!
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The Police here is a lot different than in Britain. For one they are paid SERIOUS money, and there are a lot of perks that come with the job. Its different here as the Police seem to be a higher authority than Britain, nobody messes with them and they DONT have a sense of humor. As its such a good social status and well paid there are literally thousands of applicants for a few places. Normally recruits have attended a 3 year University course on policing then have to pay to take the entry exams.

I would say Dale that you might get lucky with Toronto and if you provide proven track records, make sure you get recommendations then you might stand a small chance. The best think to be is a visible minority or female, WASPS can find it hard.
You've got to admit, when it comes to a city like Toronto, it makes perfect sense if the police reflect the diversity of the people living there. The police unlike the military still has few visible minorities in it's force, and you can't say people from visible minorities aren't applying ( may be they aren't, but we can never tell )

At the end of the day, the best people for the job should be hired. The cops that have been in the news lately for kicking folks heads in, surely weren't the right people for the job

The reason why quotas for minorities are set, came into being for a reason, minority numbers were just low and sometimes you are hard push to see one out of ten
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Old Feb 1st 2011, 10:42 am
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The Police here is a lot different than in Britain. For one they are paid SERIOUS money, and there are a lot of perks that come with the job. Its different here as the Police seem to be a higher authority than Britain, nobody messes with them and they DONT have a sense of humor. As its such a good social status and well paid there are literally thousands of applicants for a few places. Normally recruits have attended a 3 year University course on policing then have to pay to take the entry exams.

I would say Dale that you might get lucky with Toronto and if you provide proven track records, make sure you get recommendations then you might stand a small chance. The best think to be is a visible minority or female, WASPS can find it hard.
I'm an AFO (firearms) over here in Humberside, counter-terror tactics etc.. I'm qualified in TASER, Sig pistol, MP5/MP7 G36 carbine. In your opinion would the fact that i'm firearms trained give me an edge?
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Old Feb 1st 2011, 12:27 pm
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Get as many qualifications as you can, stick with the GTA- I asked someone in service and they said that York in Toronto would more than likely look at you with your qualifications. York is one of the roughest areas of the city where you would need good firearm skills as there are regular shootings.
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York is one of the roughest areas of the city where you would need good firearm skills as there are regular shootings.
Not all the shootings by the police, of course.
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Get as many qualifications as you can, stick with the GTA- I asked someone in service and they said that York in Toronto would more than likely look at you with your qualifications. York is one of the roughest areas of the city where you would need good firearm skills as there are regular shootings.
Just to clarify. There's the Toronto Police Service (TPS) that covers the old municipalities of City of Toronto, North York, Etobicoke, East York and Scarborough. Separately, there is the Regional Municipality of York which sits to the North http://ww3.yorkmaps.ca/yrGeo/yrGeoVi...ase/index.html

Top skills for TPS include: Second language, Life experience, previous policing. On the plus side, I hear many more Brit accents over the radio these days than in the last 10 years so someone in recruiting likes Brits. Still no hiring for 2011 though.
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I'm an AFO (firearms) over here in Humberside, counter-terror tactics etc.. I'm qualified in TASER, Sig pistol, MP5/MP7 G36 carbine. In your opinion would the fact that i'm firearms trained give me an edge?
But everyone ends up firearms trained here, so probably not, in all reality.

It makes you a specialist in the UK but potentially they won't view it as a great specialism here. It might give you an edge in an application, but the reality is that many of the applicants will have firearms knowledge (through the leisure route but they'll know more weapons than you ) but wont give you an edge once you are in ... give it a go, why not.

Do you have higher education, instructor experience, investigative experience, do you play hockey? Something else that will make you stand out from the crowd?
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Who knew there were so many OB on here!?


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Thanks for all the advice...alot to think about. Were applying on the wifes research doctor job been on the skilled jobs list, so we'll wait and see what the outcome of the PR visa status is.

But in the meantime, I think I'll start watching the Hull Stingrays! and learning french.

Do Police over there subscribe to a strict human rights charter like over here?
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Do Police over there subscribe to a strict human rights charter like over here?

http://www.efc.ca/pages/law/charter/charter.sect.html

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I think this is accurate enough.



In the sense of being well paid, sure. In the sense of being respected and thought valuable to society then surely not, the police socialise only with each other and live far away from the areas they police, precisely because they don't enjoy a high level of social status.
what a bunch of crap, I socalize with mostly non police including some from BE. And many cops live where they police, in smaller communites they are often required to. It may not apply here in BC due to cost of housing.

And oh, i'm white and have sense of humour.
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Originally Posted by phoenix25 View Post
I'm an AFO (firearms) over here in Humberside, counter-terror tactics etc.. I'm qualified in TASER, Sig pistol, MP5/MP7 G36 carbine. In your opinion would the fact that i'm firearms trained give me an edge?
No. It wouldn't do any harm, but shooting is simply not a skill set that is sought. You'd be in better standing with post secondary education or a second language.
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