DeanLaw

Hey guys,

I am seeking employment to assist with my Express Entry so I am able to move to Toronto.
I looking for employment ideally within social services, but i seem to be banging my head against a brick wall when I am applying as I am being informed that they do not have the funds to do the LMIA but really like my resume and should I get PR or a Visa then re apply.
So I would be happy to take anything just to boost up my point score. I have experience in general office roles, databases, spreadsheets.

If you know about anything that could be applicable, please let me know, I would appreciate your help.

Thank you in advance, Dean

christmasoompa

Realistically you're not going to get a LMIA for general office work unfortunately. Looking at your other thread, it seems your experience is mainly in NOC 4212, is that right?

Does it have to be Toronto? You're really limiting your chances by restricting yourself to one city, if you are prepared to search Canada wide to get you over there, that would be helpful.

Have you planned a job hunting trip to go out there and look in person?

DeanLaw

I've looked into 4212 - Family support/intervention and applied for around 100 jobs within Ontario, New Brunsick and Manitoba. I get the generic thank you for your application only those selected for interview will be contacted email then usually nothing else. The few I have heard back from have all said a variation of, we can see your passionate about families and if you had a visa/PR we would take this further, unfortunately until you were here we do not have the provsion to employ internationally at this time.

Which is why is was thinking of applying for anything just to get my proverbial foot in the door and it be another check mark for EE then move over to Family Support once I was in the country.

Funnily enough I planned to come over for 3 weeks last September but COVID squashed that idea. I just seem to be in a catch 22, I can't get a visa without a job offer but can't get a job offer without a visa.

christmasoompa

The trouble is, you can't get a LMIA for 'anything', for you to be granted a LMIA you'll need to show that you are more qualified/experienced than any Canadian that applies. So it's just not likely for a job that doesn't need specialist skills or that you don't have good experience of.

Did you read the Job Hunting section of the Wiki? Not sure how you've applied for those 100 jobs, but if it's just online then have another read of that to understand where you're going wrong. And get another trip planned asap if you can.

If you're open to another province, I'd also try BC. It's got the most job adverts by far for that NOC code compared to other provinces on Job Bank.

Best of luck.

DeanLaw

I found them by searching through the local children's societies websites, generally speaking its a covering letter and resume. So within the covering letter I state I'm currently awaiting EE but a job offer would hopefully expedite the process or I can look into a visa.

Will go have a gander through the wiki and see of it highlights anything I'm doing wrong or of I can improve the job applications in any way.

​​​​​​​As always thanks for the help and swift replies

Siouxie

Is NOC 4212 the NOC code that covers the main duties that you currently perform, or one that you would ideally like to do? Some aspects of what NOC 4212 covers are regulated jobs in Ontario, which require Provincial certification...for challenging the Certificate of Qualification based on provable work experience, see 'Experienced Workers' here: https://www.collegeoftrades.ca/trade-assessment (you may also need first aid certificates etc.,)
For 'Family service worker' - there are quite a few jobs in Canada.. https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/jobs/5071/ca
What duties do you perform on a day-to-day basis? To use the NOC you will need to do most of the main duties in the description..

Do you have any other work experience?

You mentioned New Brunswick may be of interest - do look at the employer list for the Atlantic Provinces Pilot Project for NB - you will need to check their websites out and see if they have any jobs in your profession available.. https://www.welcomenb.ca/content/dam...oyers_list.pdf (you can open it in a new tab using firefox, no download)
https://www.welcomenb.ca/content/wel...t_Project.html
Editing to add - you might look at jobs here then compare them to the employer list - for example, horizon health / atlantic human services etc., if you can find a match it could be your route to PR (and a temporary work permit while it's being processed).


+1 on this, unfortunately.
From my experience general office management / admin jobs also require certification in Ontario and are commonly filled by college leavers. There are so many people in Canada willing and able to do that job that the chances of an employer being able to obtain an LMIA are slim to none.

DeanLaw

4212 is where all my experience is, I have looked at joining the Ontario College of Social Wokers as I know you need to be registered with them and I do meet all the requirements, just until I had a job offer I'm reluctant to fork out the money as while Ontario is where I want to be I am open to start off somewhere else.

I'll keep an eye on Jobbank.gov usually my main source is OACAS.org but that focuses on Ontario only. In the job description/person specification I meet everything but the above registration.

Work experience fir the last 5 years has all Family Intervention/Behavioural Support, prior to that I was working at the airport as check in, dispatcher and load controller - all of which I suspect would not get a LMIA.

I will definitely give a check out of those websites and see if I can uncover anything. Thanks for the advice