Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cjones
(Post 10650506)
They are. And there is. ;)... It's a contradictory effect to that which the was initially intended. It happens all the time in marketing. A product/service marketed to a higher demographic inevitably appeals to lower groups also. Making what was once exclusive common place, so no longer as appealing to the original target group. (Think Burberry).
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
I dont know anything about the lease.
But before you jump into a European. Check out the other brands you can get here like Acura, and Infinity. You might change your mind. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by Tony_Tiger
(Post 10650519)
But before you jump into a European. Check out the other brands you can get here like Acura, and Infinity. You might change your mind.
I love Jap cars but have hated how cars that were "normal" to me like the Honda Accord is badged an Acura TSX and given a premium price. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by delsol79
(Post 10650509)
Totally agree with your point and the classic example of Burberry but that is still a different issue and discussion from whether all boy racers are chavs. They are not - posh boy racers just race their parents expensive German cars round the streets rather than a Vauxhall Corsa :p
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by delsol79
(Post 10650542)
Or you might just realise with resentment that most of the models are just rebadged Honda and Nissan models with a BMW price tag ;)
I love Jap cars but have hated how cars that were "normal" to me like the Honda Accord is badged an Acura TSX and given a premium price. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10651194)
Are the Arab kids racing Ferraris around Knightsbridge chavs or does wealth and being foreign exclude them?
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10651194)
Are the Arab kids racing Ferraris around Knightsbridge chavs or does wealth and being foreign exclude them?
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
My GMC Sierra 4x4 5.3 v8 extended cab goes through gas at the rate o 14-17 mpg , not pushing hard though!
Salt &grit not used out here in the sticks..touch o gravel at corners though. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by R I C H
(Post 10649496)
I think you're over-egging things somewhat. Leaving glow plugs for several minutes will soon kill your battery, and there's no need to leave a diesel running for half an hour before driving it in the winter. A block heater just makes cranking easier on battery and engine.
Diesel has additives that help prevent the effect of cold weather on its viscosity. Like i say, my knowledge on diesel is very little...but my next door neighbour for example is out at 6am starting his 3500 Sierra, and he leaves at 6.30 the same as i do! one of my work colleagues starts his F350 a good 30 mins before leaving work in the winter, and it sounds like a skeleton having a wank in a biscuit tin while it warms up haha it would make sense to me, that in this advanced age of fuel technologies that diesel would have such additives that it wouldn't freeze in the cold temps. So for example, if i was to possibly purchase this TDI RAM1500, i wouldn't have to plug it in any more than i've been plugging in my unleaded Honda? |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by haggis88
(Post 10652570)
...one of my work colleagues starts his F350 a good 30 mins before leaving work in the winter, and it sounds like a skeleton having a wank in a biscuit tin while it warms up haha... |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cjones
(Post 10652213)
Elaborating on a concept of yours from another thread. Maybe they could be said to have attained Chavness by proxy? ;)
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Originally Posted by jamesmc
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My GMC Sierra 4x4 5.3 v8 extended cab goes through gas at the rate o 14-17 mpg , not pushing hard though!
Salt &grit not used out here in the sticks..touch o gravel at corners though. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by delsol79
(Post 10650542)
Or you might just realise with resentment that most of the models are just rebadged Honda and Nissan models with a BMW price tag ;)
I love Jap cars but have hated how cars that were "normal" to me like the Honda Accord is badged an Acura TSX and given a premium price. Im not a fan of Japanese, but I drove from Golden BC to Calgary in the MDX and I was rather impressed. My sister had the Nissan Armada. Not as luxurious/Prestige as BMW but I found it a great workhorse for everyday stuff, kids, moving, shopping etc. I loved it. I like European vehicles but I have had to admit over the years here that the Japanese vehicles are rather nice and cheaper to run/maintain. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by haggis88
(Post 10652570)
the only thing i'm really exaggerating is the "couple of mins" for the Vento, it just felt like an eternity if you were in a rush :lol: my friends Pug 306 D-Turbo was the same
Like i say, my knowledge on diesel is very little...but my next door neighbour for example is out at 6am starting his 3500 Sierra, and he leaves at 6.30 the same as i do! one of my work colleagues starts his F350 a good 30 mins before leaving work in the winter, and it sounds like a skeleton having a wank in a biscuit tin while it warms up haha it would make sense to me, that in this advanced age of fuel technologies that diesel would have such additives that it wouldn't freeze in the cold temps. So for example, if i was to possibly purchase this TDI RAM1500, i wouldn't have to plug it in any more than i've been plugging in my unleaded Honda? |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by haggis88
(Post 10652570)
the only thing i'm really exaggerating is the "couple of mins" for the Vento, it just felt like an eternity if you were in a rush :lol: my friends Pug 306 D-Turbo was the same
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 10654039)
i had 306 d turbo back in the day..went like shit of a shovel was only 90bhp but loved it..you would literally wait 2 seconds for the start...in fact i drove nothing but diesels in the UK preferred them to petrol cars..the glow plug thing is no longer in use..im pretty sure the 306 was the last car i had with them and that was back in 1997..my last car i owned in England was an Audi a3 sport with a 2litre 170 bhp diesel and would do 0-60 in 6 secs. My Ford Edge has a 3.5litre 285 bhp petrol engine and does 0 - 60 in 6 days give or take a few hours.:thumbdown:
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10654070)
How often are you chased in your vehicles?
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 10654039)
i had 306 d turbo back in the day..went like shit of a shovel was only 90bhp but loved it..you would literally wait 2 seconds for the start...in fact i drove nothing but diesels in the UK preferred them to petrol cars..the glow plug thing is no longer in use..im pretty sure the 306 was the last car i had with them and that was back in 1997..my last car i owned in England was an Audi a3 sport with a 2litre 170 bhp diesel and would do 0-60 in 6 secs. My Ford Edge has a 3.5litre 285 bhp petrol engine and does 0 - 60 in 6 days give or take a few hours.:thumbdown:
Petrol is 139 ppl Diesel is 146 ppl (per the AA) |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 10654078)
i only ever get chased by women not other vehicles but that's for another thread..im not a petrol head or boy racer i just like a clean get away from the lights and for the quick overtake of lorries etc esp going up hills.
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by cheers
(Post 10654135)
So when I go back to live in England do you suggest a Audi Diesel, Volkswagon Golf diesel or a Skoda diesel???
Petrol is 139 ppl Diesel is 146 ppl (per the AA) |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
I clicked through an ad for the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee this morning and note that from the 2014 MY one is able to purchase a 3.0L Diesel GC boasting upto 40mpg (allegedly). That sounds attractive but a quick play of the build and price tool seems to indicate that the diesel is only available on the "Overland" model and higher and has a $5k premium over the gas. All in all a diesel GC becomes a $60k+ vehicle which is ridiculously expensive to buy/finance. (The Jeep pricing calculator defaults to a purchase term of 96 months or 8 years which is a crazy time period to finance a vehicle over IMHO.)
In comparison, five years or so ago, I leased a diesel Liberty for 3 years for about $400 a month. Now that was a good deal! |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 10661885)
I clicked through an ad for the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee this morning and note that from the 2014 MY one is able to purchase a 3.0L Diesel GC boasting upto 40mpg (allegedly). That sounds attractive but a quick play of the build and price tool seems to indicate that the diesel is only available on the "Overland" model and higher and has a $5k premium over the gas. All in all a diesel GC becomes a $60k+ vehicle which is ridiculously expensive to buy/finance. (The Jeep pricing calculator defaults to a purchase term of 96 months or 8 years which is a crazy time period to finance a vehicle over IMHO.)
In comparison, five years or so ago, I leased a diesel Liberty for 3 years for about $400 a month. Now that was a good deal! |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 10661885)
In comparison, five years or so ago, I leased a diesel Liberty for 3 years for about $400 a month. Now that was a good deal! |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by nldfc
(Post 10662094)
I really hope you leased that for your wife rather than yourself Ax ;)
Originally Posted by cheers
(Post 10662132)
I take it you no longer have it?
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 10661885)
I clicked through an ad for the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee this morning and note that from the 2014 MY one is able to purchase a 3.0L Diesel GC boasting upto 40mpg (allegedly). That sounds attractive but a quick play of the build and price tool seems to indicate that the diesel is only available on the "Overland" model and higher and has a $5k premium over the gas. All in all a diesel GC becomes a $60k+ vehicle which is ridiculously expensive to buy/finance. (The Jeep pricing calculator defaults to a purchase term of 96 months or 8 years which is a crazy time period to finance a vehicle over IMHO.)
In comparison, five years or so ago, I leased a diesel Liberty for 3 years for about $400 a month. Now that was a good deal! Do you mean from May 2014 or 2013? |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by mohtechnix
(Post 10662348)
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Do you mean from May 2014 or 2013? I've got a diesel in France (not a truck). It's a 5 year old Citroen 4 with a 1.6l motor. I've been getting 5.5 l/100Km (~50 miles per imperial gallon) and over 1000 km on a tankful which costs ~$C85. No brainer really. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by mohtechnix
(Post 10662348)
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Do you mean from May 2014 or 2013? |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 10662433)
Manufacturers model years usually start 6 months before the calendar year. So a 2014 my vehicle should be available in the summer.
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Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
Originally Posted by delsol79
(Post 10650542)
Or you might just realise with resentment that most of the models are just rebadged Honda and Nissan models with a BMW price tag ;)
I love Jap cars but have hated how cars that were "normal" to me like the Honda Accord is badged an Acura TSX and given a premium price. |
Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
the NA Accord has slightly different styling, i think that's the only difference...i personally prefer the TSX styling to the Accord
the Euro Accord is exactly the same as the TSX, just with Honda badges when you start delving into which car is badged as which for different markets, you get some really odd combos! Like this bad boy: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CjzjkTNhxo...+crossroad.jpg yep, a Disco with Honda Badges made for the Far Eastern market hahah |
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