2 years and love it?
Feb 20th 2013, 7:36 pm
#76
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Re: 2 years and love it?
ArthurBrit....I see what you are saying and I agree with the logic, just not the content.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
Feb 20th 2013, 7:39 pm
#77
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Re: 2 years and love it?
I don't have any negatives to justify. The only complaints I have about canada is the food / housing / clothing is pricey, I can't find proper bacon and the bread is crap. ABSOLUTELY everything else about Canada is better than England. I'd rather lose an arm than go back to England.
You can throw stats about, G8 this, GDP that...but just ask yourself one simple question "Is the standard of life better here?". And for me, there is NO competition at all. Canada is better than anything I could have dreamed of.
The Uk really is a sinking ship. The boarders have been opened, the country diluted and island is full to capacity. Each generation of kids is worse than the last, crapping out even more kids at a younger and younger ages. The poor buggers have no chance.
I prefer to look at future accomplishments, not look at past. I'm 33 so I'm from the 2nd to last generation....and I know we were all thick. Most of my friends live on the welfare (and are happy about it), no job, no house and are miserable. What does the UK lead the world in now? Music? Culture? Science? Technology? I don't think so. As I said before, England was great at one point, but that time has long, long since gone.
I live in a national park so it is ridiculously clean. It's in the mountains so the air is fresh. I go out once or twice a week to the pub/club and I have never once seen a fight. There are miles and miles of open space between where I live and the nearest city. The people here are HORRIFIED by people on benefits, it's just not in their nature to claim welfare. So yes, I stick by my comment that compared to Canada, the UK is "Dirty, smelly, violent, crowded and poor"
I try to visit as little as possible. In fact, the only time I go back is if members of my family die (and even then I try to get out of it!). You must be wandering around with blinkers on then. Tell you what, next time you are in England you should take a little trip to Cheshire and tell me how you like it. Or use public transportation at night. Be in a train station after 5pm. Walk through a park after dark. Go to any city pub.
I can't believe I've just joined and already I feel as though I'm in an argument but I'm sorry, I REALLY hate people who whine and complain about how bad their life is. If you like England all that much, then move back. Simple. I find that attitude a huge insult to Canada and Canadian people. I've met maybe 40-50 UK people since moving here, and every single one of them loves canada...and the ones who moved back to England but I have kept in contact with, have all deeply regretted moving back home.
Maybe you should change your attitudes before changing your country.
You can throw stats about, G8 this, GDP that...but just ask yourself one simple question "Is the standard of life better here?". And for me, there is NO competition at all. Canada is better than anything I could have dreamed of.
The Uk really is a sinking ship. The boarders have been opened, the country diluted and island is full to capacity. Each generation of kids is worse than the last, crapping out even more kids at a younger and younger ages. The poor buggers have no chance.
I prefer to look at future accomplishments, not look at past. I'm 33 so I'm from the 2nd to last generation....and I know we were all thick. Most of my friends live on the welfare (and are happy about it), no job, no house and are miserable. What does the UK lead the world in now? Music? Culture? Science? Technology? I don't think so. As I said before, England was great at one point, but that time has long, long since gone.
I live in a national park so it is ridiculously clean. It's in the mountains so the air is fresh. I go out once or twice a week to the pub/club and I have never once seen a fight. There are miles and miles of open space between where I live and the nearest city. The people here are HORRIFIED by people on benefits, it's just not in their nature to claim welfare. So yes, I stick by my comment that compared to Canada, the UK is "Dirty, smelly, violent, crowded and poor"
I try to visit as little as possible. In fact, the only time I go back is if members of my family die (and even then I try to get out of it!). You must be wandering around with blinkers on then. Tell you what, next time you are in England you should take a little trip to Cheshire and tell me how you like it. Or use public transportation at night. Be in a train station after 5pm. Walk through a park after dark. Go to any city pub.
I can't believe I've just joined and already I feel as though I'm in an argument but I'm sorry, I REALLY hate people who whine and complain about how bad their life is. If you like England all that much, then move back. Simple. I find that attitude a huge insult to Canada and Canadian people. I've met maybe 40-50 UK people since moving here, and every single one of them loves canada...and the ones who moved back to England but I have kept in contact with, have all deeply regretted moving back home.
Maybe you should change your attitudes before changing your country.
Feb 20th 2013, 7:41 pm
#78
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Re: 2 years and love it?
I applaud what you're saying, but I must note that you're taking your microcosmic view of living within a National Park (Banff? Jasper??) and blanketing the whole of Canada based on life in a National Park in one small part of Canada. Your lifestyle is the abnormality in Canada, I'd imagine, considering the majority of Canada's 33+ million population live in urban areas.
Feb 20th 2013, 7:47 pm
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Re: 2 years and love it?
ArthurBrit....I see what you are saying and I agree with the logic, just not the content.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
Feb 20th 2013, 7:47 pm
#80
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Re: 2 years and love it?
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Canada is so far ahead of the UK of the UK with music, tech and science. Just look at the amazing output from this country, there's Justin Bieber, Celine Dion and Blackberry. And that's all I can think of right now, but I bet there are loads of others.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:01 pm
#81
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Re: 2 years and love it?
ArthurBrit....I see what you are saying and I agree with the logic, just not the content.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
When you move to a new country you have to give it 100% or you will be unhappy. I noticed on one of the posters sig's it had "proud brit"! Now what chance do you have integrating into a new country with an attitude like that? When I moved I loved England but I wanted to experience the world, once I arrived in Canada I tried to integrated myself completely. To learn the history, customs, special days and people of Canada.
When I think about living in England, the biggest complaint we had of immigrants was their reluctance to fully fit in. Their need to form cliques and groups and stay separate from the rest of the country . Yet those same people who complained are moving to a new country and doing the exact same thing!
Give in, let go and embrace Canada...once you do, there is no turning back. Enjoying life here is easy.
I am the man I am today because I grew up in the UK if I hated the UK I would need to hate myself as I am a direct product of that great country.
Whilst there may be issues and things wrong with Britain it is my home, regardless of how long I live in Canada. Don't get me wrong I also love Canada and it is also my home it is possible to love both countries. Much like there being issues with Britain there are also issues with Canada.
I don't intentionally post bad things about Canada I just point out the differences between the two countries to try to add constructive critisism/culteral differences, I would never sit here on the forums and say what a cess pit Canada is because it simply isn't true, it isn't true for Britian either.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:04 pm
#82
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Wrong.
I am the man I am today because I grew up in the UK if I hated the UK I would need to hate myself as I am a direct product of that great country.
Whilst there may be issues and things wrong with Britain it is my home, regardless of how long I live in Canada. Don't get me wrong I also love Canada and it is also my home it is possible to love both countries. Much like there being issues with Britain there are also issues with Canada.
I don't intentionally post bad things about Canada I just point out the differences between the two countries to try to add constructive critisism/culteral differences, I would never sit here on the forums and say what a cess pit Canada is because it simply isn't true, it isn't true for Britian either.
I am the man I am today because I grew up in the UK if I hated the UK I would need to hate myself as I am a direct product of that great country.
Whilst there may be issues and things wrong with Britain it is my home, regardless of how long I live in Canada. Don't get me wrong I also love Canada and it is also my home it is possible to love both countries. Much like there being issues with Britain there are also issues with Canada.
I don't intentionally post bad things about Canada I just point out the differences between the two countries to try to add constructive critisism/culteral differences, I would never sit here on the forums and say what a cess pit Canada is because it simply isn't true, it isn't true for Britian either.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:11 pm
#83
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Accepting that Canada has flaws and that the UK isn’t all bad, doesn't mean you don't like Canada, nor does it mean you’d prefer to be in the UK..
To be honest I don’t think one is any better or worse than the other, subtle variations, the grass is different shades of green..
With peoples differing expectations between quality and quantity of life and the varying overlap of their definitions it can be difficult to determine what defines better between two 1st world nations
What I do know is that to describe a top 10 GDP nation as one going to the dogs is naïve, foolish and guaranteed to get you called out on a public forum
Last edited by MikeUK; Feb 20th 2013 at 8:22 pm.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:17 pm
#84
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Wrong.
I am the man I am today because I grew up in the UK if I hated the UK I would need to hate myself as I am a direct product of that great country.
Whilst there may be issues and things wrong with Britain it is my home, regardless of how long I live in Canada. Don't get me wrong I also love Canada and it is also my home it is possible to love both countries. Much like there being issues with Britain there are also issues with Canada.
I don't intentionally post bad things about Canada I just point out the differences between the two countries to try to add constructive critisism/culteral differences, I would never sit here on the forums and say what a cess pit Canada is because it simply isn't true, it isn't true for Britian either.
I am the man I am today because I grew up in the UK if I hated the UK I would need to hate myself as I am a direct product of that great country.
Whilst there may be issues and things wrong with Britain it is my home, regardless of how long I live in Canada. Don't get me wrong I also love Canada and it is also my home it is possible to love both countries. Much like there being issues with Britain there are also issues with Canada.
I don't intentionally post bad things about Canada I just point out the differences between the two countries to try to add constructive critisism/culteral differences, I would never sit here on the forums and say what a cess pit Canada is because it simply isn't true, it isn't true for Britian either.
I am who I am IN SPITE of growing up in England.
I agree that you are at least much more constructive than some of the other posters though.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:26 pm
#85
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Your posts are like a shining beacon of common sense. All too often we see people coming to this forum and arguing against views that nobody actually holds. So it's good to see somebody point out the that anyone who says the UK isn't going to the dogs must hate Canada, be unwilling to change and won't be happy wherever they go. It stands to reason what with all the immigrants and feral chavs around. They don't even make anything there any more.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:27 pm
#86
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Re: 2 years and love it?
To glibly say everything in Canada is great and everything in Britail is crap is just so prejorative. Of course there's good and bad in any country or culture. Some people fit in or assimilate to another country better than others. I for one happen to love living in Canada and I don't have any forseeable intention of moving back to the UK. But to openly condemn everything British is bound to get people's backs up.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:27 pm
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Re: 2 years and love it?
What I do know is that to describe a top 10 GDP nation as one going to the dogs is naïve, foolish and guaranteed to get you called out on a public forum
It's not about today, but more about tomorrow. Where is the UK heading. And if you can't see that England is on the descent then there is something wrong with you.
The space, resources and room for growth in Canada is infinitely better than the UK.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:29 pm
#88
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Other posters are attacking you because you attacked something very dear to them. Their reactions are something I fully expect and to be fair you should expect it too when all you have done is destroy the UK in your own mind. Other people aren't happy with what you said and are belittling you.
My feeling is that you are personally attacking Britain to put your mind at ease regarding whether you made the correct decision or not.
The truth is that you probably miss the UK and the truth is you find that by stating it's a cess pit somehow sedates you. That's fair enough but you need to remember what sedates you riles other people up.
It's not easy for anyone to move overseas and be away from their true friends and family and nothing can prepare us for that change but it doesn't help and is not healthy for people to be told what they are missing is a cess pit.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:32 pm
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Re: 2 years and love it?
Hey Ronaldoooo,
Did you read how to make friends and influence people before joining the forum?
I thinks it's great you love Canada. I hope I get there and love it as much as you do.
Re: Britain - I wouldn't be trying to leave here if I didn't think I could have a more satisfying life elsewhere. But I think you can love both places (maybe a little more or less) as well.
Just because someone doesn't rave about Canada doesn't mean they're some sort of half-hearted immigrant. Perhaps they're just not quite as into it as you. I love your enthusiasm for it though. I hope I get that same level of excitement some day soon.
Yours,
GB Griffiths.
Did you read how to make friends and influence people before joining the forum?
I thinks it's great you love Canada. I hope I get there and love it as much as you do.
Re: Britain - I wouldn't be trying to leave here if I didn't think I could have a more satisfying life elsewhere. But I think you can love both places (maybe a little more or less) as well.
Just because someone doesn't rave about Canada doesn't mean they're some sort of half-hearted immigrant. Perhaps they're just not quite as into it as you. I love your enthusiasm for it though. I hope I get that same level of excitement some day soon.
Yours,
GB Griffiths.
Feb 20th 2013, 8:34 pm
#90
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Re: 2 years and love it?
I know. There's nothing there any more. The only world class industries they have are in high-tech, science, pharma, creative, aerospace and financial sectors. And they are only the 6th largest manufacturer in the world or something - it's pathetic really.