"You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Note to the Australian vaccine hesistancy police: not all of us are actually hesitant, we just want to receive the best vaccines available. And the AZ vaccine surely ain't it, for any individual of any age, whether on efficacy or safety grounds..
Not only is there an acknowledged risk of severe blood clots from the AZ vaccine--and note, there have been more deaths in Australia due to those blood clots than to Covid-19 over the past 3 months--but AZ has developed a woeful reputation with US regulators for being 'economical with the truth' in terms of their trial results, on more than one occasion. Meanwhile, the Australian government has already announced contracts for 25M new doses of a better solution from Moderna (and more doses from Pfizer as well), while at the same time telling us we won't be free to travel abroad until mid-2022 in any case. Make me eligible for a pair of those jabs (either brand), and I'll be first in line. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 13008881)
Note to the Australian vaccine hesistancy police: not all of us are actually hesitant, we just want to receive the best vaccines available. And the AZ vaccine surely ain't it, for any individual of any age, whether on efficacy or safety grounds..
Not only is there an acknowledged risk of severe blood clots from the AZ vaccine--and note, there have been more deaths in Australia due to those blood clots than to Covid-19 over the past 3 months--but AZ has developed a woeful reputation with US regulators for being 'economical with the truth' in terms of their trial results, on more than one occasion. Meanwhile, the Australian government has already announced contracts for 25M new doses of a better solution from Moderna (and more doses from Pfizer as well), while at the same time telling us we won't be free to travel abroad until mid-2022 in any case. Make me eligible for a pair of those jabs (either brand), and I'll be first in line. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
I waiting for the “next wave” so I can sport my “I’d rather be building my immune system” or “Chinese Health Organisation” masks as decreed by our wise overlords.
I’m not so much “Anti Vax” as more “Pro Immune System”. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 13008881)
and note, there have been more deaths in Australia due to those blood clots than to Covid-19 over the past 3 months--.
I am having my Pfizer tomorrow. I would happily have AZ too. I don't really care, I just want to play my part in herd immunity. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Waiting for Pfizer. My specialist and GP said wait.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13009394)
...I am having my Pfizer tomorrow. I would happily have AZ too. I don't really care, I just want to play my part in herd immunity.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 13009423)
I had my AZ Thursday - all good so far. The sooner we can get vaccinated, the sooner international borders open hopefully.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by Retirednow
(Post 13009396)
Waiting for Pfizer. My specialist and GP said wait.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Husband and I have both had our first AZ vaccinations, neither of us have had any issues.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 13009435)
Smart decision, I think. I was supposed to have had mine last week but on the day I cancelled it in favour of waiting for the Pfizer one. My wife's (also ACT based) GP suggested we wait too.
There's another element to this as well: there are conflicting views (and no comprehensive peer-reviewed studies informing those views) as to what the effect is of mixing different vaccine types, whether from an efficacy or risk perspective. E.g. what is the efficacy and risk profile if one receives an AZ first shot, a Pfizer second shot, and maybe a Moderna booster (the only new-variant booster currently on order by the Australian government, BTW) after that...? If you start off with AZ, are you stuck with AZ all the way? The mRNA vaccine vendors (Pfizer and Moderna, so far) seem more likely to keep up with developing variants than traditional vaccine tech vendors like AZ (and Novavax). And *any* vendor will prioritise efficacy and safety studies that test "their" boosters in relation to recipients of "their" original vaccines, leaving 'mix-and-match' studies to follow later, funded by somebody else. Yet another reason to wait on Pfizer or Moderna options within Australia, for those not immediately eligible for the Pfizer path. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 13009463)
Agreed.
There's another element to this as well: there are conflicting views (and no comprehensive peer-reviewed studies informing those views) as to what the effect is of mixing different vaccine types, whether from an efficacy or risk perspective. E.g. what is the efficacy and risk profile if one receives an AZ first shot, a Pfizer second shot, and maybe a Moderna booster (the only new-variant booster currently on order by the Australian government, BTW) after that...? If you start off with AZ, are you stuck with AZ all the way? The mRNA vaccine vendors (Pfizer and Moderna, so far) seem more likely to keep up with developing variants than traditional vaccine tech vendors like AZ (and Novavax). And *any* vendor will prioritise efficacy and safety studies that test "their" boosters in relation to recipients of "their" original vaccines, leaving 'mix-and-match' studies to follow later, funded by somebody else. Yet another reason to wait on Pfizer or Moderna options within Australia, for those not immediately eligible for the Pfizer path. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
I knew I shouldn't have read this thread because it would annoy me....
I've had my AZ vaccination without a second thought because I wanted to play my part in protecting my community and getting back to a normal life. |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 13009423)
I had my AZ Thursday - all good so far. The sooner we can get vaccinated, the sooner international borders open hopefully.
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Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 13009481)
Those are my concerns too. Do we submit to this cocktail of vaccines, trusting that those who are making them up as we go along are not doing us and our immune systems harm? .
Do you get the flu shot every year? If so how do you know the version last year was the same this year? |
Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
My understanding after plenty of research is that there is no issue from receiving multiple types of kung flu vaccines. In fact, according to the CMO and other sources, you may get better immunity
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