spouse of scouse

Can't believe the opposition to this song being sung. The lyrics don't preach hate. Same sex people aren't vilified. Glad the Attorney General isn't a precious little snow flake.

"Gay" is synonymous with the lesser
It's the same hate that's caused wars from religion
Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
The same fight that led people to walk-outs and sit-ins

Beoz

Isn't it wonderful we are having a debate about it, then a vote.

Of course, there are those who will cry foul because the debate causing offence, to both sides.

There will some religious nutters that will feel offence just like same sex team will.

scrubbedexpat098

It's not the song itself it's the fact that the yes campaign is getting a platform at the NRL grand final, and the no campaign isn't. I think this could do the yes campaign more harm than good.

It's like these huge companies putting their weight behind Yes. It's one person one vote, by boss doesn't speak on my behalf no matter which way he's voting so he can't stand up and say 'my company of 5000 people is voting yes' and not be full of shit.

We know how stubborn people can be when constantly being told they're ignorant or racist if they vote a certain way, and this is no different. I stand by my assertion that a no vote is born out of prejudice, however you want to dress it up. However, we're all guilty of some sort of prejudice aren't we? This whole thing is a bloody mess, if the idea was to bring the country together, then it's an abject failure. Just the fact that I get a say in the validity of someone elses adult, consentual relationship is ludicrous.

spouse of scouse

No, it's not wonderful that we're having a debate about it, then a vote. Governments send their citizens to war without a vote, yet we all get a say on whether same sex couples are 'allowed' to marry? Give me a break.

spouse of scouse

And therein lies the rub. People who are all puffed up with importance because they've stupidly been given the right of veto over something that doesn't affect them, allowing themselves to be swayed because some rapper sings one of his hit songs? Wonderful people to be in charge of others' lives.

I totally agree with your last sentence, even if your spelling's shite

Lion in Winter

Spectacularly well put.

scrubbedexpat098

ahem, shit haha

Beoz

And on an important issues like war, there is no reason why that can't be put to the people too.

The thing is, same sex marriage is a sensitive issue for yes and a sensitive is for no and even a sensitive issue for the "I don't cares".

Put it too the people. Job done.

GarryP

The idea was to keep the coalition from falling apart. Which means the entire farce is because of 20-30 far right loonies.

A baseball bat would have been cheaper and far more practical.

scrubbedexpat098

What annoys me more than anything is that everyone had their minds made up already, no=one needed any campaigning to either side. It should have been an X factor style 'text yes if you're in favour to 12345. would have been far simpler and cheaper

scrubbedexpat098

Doesn't that mean though, that it's the message not the spelling that's important? You're lucky I've voted already, your grammar naziism was enough to trigger me into a no vote

I've got a gay mate who voted no, explain him haha.

scrubbedexpat098

Excellent decision by the NRL, all pro / anti same sex marriage flags and such are going to be confiscated. Rightly so in my opinion, it's the way the Yes campaign jumped on this as an opportunity that got my goat.

scrubbedexpat098

Where was my voting slip when you got married?

Dreamy

They haven't banned any flags more than usual though:

No NRL grand final rainbow flag ban, confirms Sydney's Olympic stadium ahead of Macklemore performance - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

scrubbedexpat098

I was reading the paper this morning and they said there was a specific ban in place. Don't tell me they were talking shit in a newspaper, no no no it can't be.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...1eef79dd9e35be

Suppose we'll see this afternoon, there'll be a riot or a mass walkout if it turns into a political rally.