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scottishcelts Nov 29th 2011 11:14 am

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
No.****ing.Way.

- only way I'd give up British citizenship would be in return for Scottish independence/citizenship. :)

JoeBloggs80 Nov 29th 2011 11:15 am

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
No way Pedro.

slapphead_otool Nov 29th 2011 11:25 am

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
In my opion it's too easy to get citizenship. Vast numbers get Australain citizenship then head home, secure in the knowledge that they can run to AUSTRALIA if things ever go wrong.

Most rich Indonesian Chinese (chino's) have at least one family member with an Australian passport, usually a girl as the sons all run the family empire. The logic is if things ever go the way they did in 98 the family can all seek refuge here.

Same goes for many Chinese, who hold Australian passports and live inching where they pay little tax.

The issue is the cost of providing a safe haven and diplomatic protection and services for people who's only financial contribution is the cost of the passport.

I worked on crisis evacuation planning, and you would not believe the extent to which Australia would go to rescue its citizens. I wouldn't like to be standing holding a gun on some distant airport to save some guy who uses the citizenship as a flag of convenience.

DeadVim Nov 29th 2011 11:29 am

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 

Originally Posted by Turban Explorer (Post 9759700)
That's not even worth answering

So why did you? :p

lonndongeek Nov 29th 2011 11:45 am

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 

Originally Posted by Astrid (Post 9759592)
Just out of curiosity; do you Brits think it would be as "easy" to become Australian citizens, if you weren't able to still keep your British citizenship?

Like if you lost it automatically if you got your OZ one....

I am asking since it would be a huge isue for us, and not easy at all, since we would loose our Danish citizenship forever, if we applied for (and got) an Australian citizenship, as we don't have double citizenship as an option in Denmark....
I am not sure I would be ready for this at all, not ever being able to go back and live (or die) if I felt like it in the future for whatever reason.

What do you think?

Definitely not. In my case, I wouldn't give up any EU citizenship for practical reasons - being able to live/work in any EU country.

Cheers

LG

In Exile Nov 29th 2011 12:07 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
lol.
no way. unlimited access to NZ, but visas for everywhere else? :D

for me the only single advantage of an Australian Passport would be the possibility of an E3 visa to the States.

I'm eligible, just havent bothered applying yet. I'm sure I will one day.

chris955 Nov 29th 2011 12:56 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
No way in the world.

chris955 Nov 29th 2011 12:58 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
He actually didn't :p


Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9761554)
So why did you? :p


chris955 Nov 29th 2011 12:59 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
So is that a yes or no then ? :)


Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9761549)
In my opion it's too easy to get citizenship. Vast numbers get Australain citizenship then head home, secure in the knowledge that they can run to AUSTRALIA if things ever go wrong.

Most rich Indonesian Chinese (chino's) have at least one family member with an Australian passport, usually a girl as the sons all run the family empire. The logic is if things ever go the way they did in 98 the family can all seek refuge here.

Same goes for many Chinese, who hold Australian passports and live inching where they pay little tax.

The issue is the cost of providing a safe haven and diplomatic protection and services for people who's only financial contribution is the cost of the passport.

I worked on crisis evacuation planning, and you would not believe the extent to which Australia would go to rescue its citizens. I wouldn't like to be standing holding a gun on some distant airport to save some guy who uses the citizenship as a flag of convenience.


slapphead_otool Nov 29th 2011 1:37 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9761663)
So is that a yes or no then ? :)

I haven't renewed my uk passport for years. I don't even know where the old one is. I guess I wouldn't care if I lost my uk citizenship.

I tried to register with the British embassies of the former colonies where I was working this year. There aren't any. Britain basically is gone from the region, apart from a small presence in Fiji.

The idea of being able to work in a wide range of European countries sounds appealing, but given the current state of the EU and the Euro, I think most Biritish will be coming out of there soon, in scenes reminiscent of Dunkirk. the way things are going waving an EU zone passport will be like waving an Afghanistan one before long.

scottishcelts Nov 29th 2011 1:38 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 

Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9761706)
I haven't renewed my uk passport for years. I don't even know where the old one is. I guess I wouldn't care if I lost my uk citizenship.

I tried to register with the British embassies of the former colonies where I was working this year. There aren't any. Britain basically is gone from the region, apart from a small presence in Fiji.

The idea of being able to work in a wide range of European countries sounds appealing, but given the current state of the EU and the Euro, I think most Biritish will be coming out of there soon, in scenes reminiscent of Dunkirk. the way things are going waving an EU zone passport will be like waving an Afghanistan one before long.

Is there anywhere in the world you haven't worked/lived? :sneaky::D

slapphead_otool Nov 29th 2011 1:42 pm

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Originally Posted by scottishcelts (Post 9761709)
Is there anywhere in the world you haven't worked/lived? :sneaky::D

In the last 12 months: Vanuatu, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Nautu, Manila, Auckland and of course Sydney.

Next year Auckland, Tuvalu, Fiji, Tibet (?) Manila and maybe Mongolia if I can't get out of it. And of course, Sydney.

The nature of the beast....

chris955 Nov 29th 2011 1:45 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 
That does explain many of your posts I guess. We are all different.
The consensus seems to be 'no way' which I think is good.


Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9761706)
I haven't renewed my uk passport for years. I don't even know where the old one is. I guess I wouldn't care if I lost my uk citizenship.


In Exile Nov 29th 2011 1:46 pm

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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9761718)
In the last 12 months: Vanuatu, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Nautu, Manila, Auckland and of course Sydney.

Next year Auckland, Tuvalu, Fiji, Tibet (?) Manila and maybe Mongolia if I can't get out of it. And of course, Sydney.

The nature of the beast....

what are you? assassin, IT or travelling pimp :D

scottishcelts Nov 29th 2011 1:48 pm

Re: would you still apply for OZ citizenship if....
 

Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9761718)
In the last 12 months: Vanuatu, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Nautu, Manila, Auckland and of course Sydney.

Next year Auckland, Tuvalu, Fiji, Tibet (?) Manila and maybe Mongolia if I can't get out of it. And of course, Sydney.

The nature of the beast....

:ohmy: phew!

Where do you find the energy for all that? Is Sydney your base then?

(I feel nosey today :p)


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