The world of automation
Sep 18th 2017, 11:16 am
#856
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Re: The world of automation
The tech jobs are great. No question that tech has taken up the slack of factory jobs. However, it won't be long before SEO specialist, App developer, web analyst, drone operator, etc will all be done by machine.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:19 am
#857
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Re: The world of automation
Instead Tyrone, like the 98% of 18 year olds went off to do tertiary education. In the case of Tyrone, he wasn't much chop with maths or english so he became a plumber. Everyone needs to shit and shower and robot hasn't quite figured how to navigate a 1 x 3 retro fit ensuite.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:23 am
#858
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Re: The world of automation
In the future, driver-less cars will become a low cost / free public service. There is less need to own a car if the can be summoned at will. Car ownership will become the domain of enthusiasts.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:26 am
#859
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Re: The world of automation
There is plenty of scope for both wind and solar in Australia - vast tracts of nothingness, and that's just suburbia.
Stick 5kW of panels on every roof and that's going on for 50GW of generation (currently Australia has 6MW). Add in the commercial space, the warehouses, etc. and you can up that significantly. Add batteries to those and cut waste and you can essentially make much of the demand disappear from the grid. And then you get to the land that is essentially worthless and useless that could have concentrated solar on it (eg much of the middle of the country).
$1bn they are talking about using to build one coal line could be used to help put the distributed system in place to remove the need for the coal power stations. And with free power, everyone with such a system gets more money in their pocket.
One thing is certain, it's much more sensible to build such a system than a new coal power station, its much cheaper and more practical going forward.
That's why I say they need to actually have a plan for going forward, and why the backward nature of those politicians - in energy AND automation - is so damaging and destructive.
PS new nuclear is more expensive than new coal (significantly so) in lifetime cost terms, and thus more expensive than wind or solar. So it's a non-starter.
Stick 5kW of panels on every roof and that's going on for 50GW of generation (currently Australia has 6MW). Add in the commercial space, the warehouses, etc. and you can up that significantly. Add batteries to those and cut waste and you can essentially make much of the demand disappear from the grid. And then you get to the land that is essentially worthless and useless that could have concentrated solar on it (eg much of the middle of the country).
$1bn they are talking about using to build one coal line could be used to help put the distributed system in place to remove the need for the coal power stations. And with free power, everyone with such a system gets more money in their pocket.
One thing is certain, it's much more sensible to build such a system than a new coal power station, its much cheaper and more practical going forward.
That's why I say they need to actually have a plan for going forward, and why the backward nature of those politicians - in energy AND automation - is so damaging and destructive.
PS new nuclear is more expensive than new coal (significantly so) in lifetime cost terms, and thus more expensive than wind or solar. So it's a non-starter.
Good post. Suburbia
Offshore wind power cheaper than new nuclear - BBC News
Sep 18th 2017, 11:35 am
#860
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Re: The world of automation
Blacksmith = Mechanic
Rat catcher = Pest Controller
Street Sweeper = Bin Man
Quarrymen = Miner
But guess what, automation expanded those roles and made sure we needed more of them.
See automation creates jobs
The poor old milkman though. World order and half siblings nearly collapsed when we lost the milkman.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:41 am
#861
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Re: The world of automation
Landlines phones are cheaper than mobile phones.
Sending stuff by boat is cheaper than by air.
Cost means nothing if its ineffective.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:43 am
#865
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Re: The world of automation
Are you serious? Zumba instructor? Blogger? Well being coach? Are you going to get a mortgage in those ephemeral jobs?
The tech jobs are great. No question that tech has taken up the slack of factory jobs. However, it won't be long before SEO specialist, App developer, web analyst, drone operator, etc will all be done by machine.
The tech jobs are great. No question that tech has taken up the slack of factory jobs. However, it won't be long before SEO specialist, App developer, web analyst, drone operator, etc will all be done by machine.
This is nothing new or futuristic. Yet the world cracks on.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:52 am
#869
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Re: The world of automation
Obviously it's still needed. Making assumptions as always. I posted the article to support the general tone of Garry's post, which is that renewables are a viable energy source. This was big news in the UK, as for so many years luddites have been dismissing wind generation as alternative power source. Most of us realise that few things are mutually exclusive. You weakness when trying to argue a point is that you see everything black and white, and you assume that the other person also sees things black and white.
Sep 18th 2017, 11:56 am
#870
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Re: The world of automation
You think it happens when you are "right" which is not really possible, because you rarely are. It's more to do with your incredible smugness. You seem to revel in it. Fine on an internet forum, we're all here for a bit of entertainment, but I hope you are not that way in real life. If you challenge your preconceived notions on everything, you might be surprised with what you learn. And that would be fun.
