Why is this a law?
Apr 23rd 2010, 6:46 pm
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Apr 23rd 2010, 6:46 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
ok, I'm only winding you up. Its just that when I sit at the wheel, my arms aren't straight, but they're not bent at 90degrees.... they're half way between. I could probably rest my elbow on the inside of the window ledge but that's it.
I can't see how you can physically do it, unless:
a) you're sitting really really close to the wheel, or
b) you're actually lying, your right hand isn't on the wheel at all, its just flopping around aimlessly inside the car, whilst your elbow enjoys the breeze.
ps - you are trying to look cool. Go on. Admit it.
I can't see how you can physically do it, unless:
a) you're sitting really really close to the wheel, or
b) you're actually lying, your right hand isn't on the wheel at all, its just flopping around aimlessly inside the car, whilst your elbow enjoys the breeze.
ps - you are trying to look cool. Go on. Admit it.
and yes, i sit close to the wheel cos my legs ain't very long
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Apr 23rd 2010, 6:48 pm
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Apr 23rd 2010, 7:49 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
Wow, I lay back in the passenger seat with my feet resting on the wing mirror
Makes changing gear difficult
Makes changing gear difficult
Apr 23rd 2010, 8:16 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
Hmm think you've been told a load of tosh there
http://www.motorists.org/drl/ an article on the dangers of daylight driving with lights on.
Also driving at night where 99.9% of vehicles are using their headlights, I believe you are 3 times as likely to have a smash than daytime driving
http://www.motorists.org/drl/ an article on the dangers of daylight driving with lights on.
Also driving at night where 99.9% of vehicles are using their headlights, I believe you are 3 times as likely to have a smash than daytime driving
http://www.openroad.com.au/motoring_...afefeature.asp
Look, I can only go on what was taught on the course - Corporate Driver Training www.cdta.com.au
But then again we are all taught differently arent we? I happen to think those that think speeding is acceptable are idiots but my friend was taught 'keep up with the flow of traffic'.
Some company cars have the lights go on as soon as the engine starts, as do some of the newer motorbikes, so there must be something in it.
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Apr 23rd 2010, 8:20 pm
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Apr 23rd 2010, 10:11 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
Just found some links for you, so I dont think it is all tosh http://theage.drive.com.au/owning-ti...1216-kw2i.html
http://www.openroad.com.au/motoring_...afefeature.asp
Look, I can only go on what was taught on the course - Corporate Driver Training www.cdta.com.au
But then again we are all taught differently arent we? I happen to think those that think speeding is acceptable are idiots but my friend was taught 'keep up with the flow of traffic'.
Some company cars have the lights go on as soon as the engine starts, as do some of the newer motorbikes, so there must be something in it.
http://www.openroad.com.au/motoring_...afefeature.asp
Look, I can only go on what was taught on the course - Corporate Driver Training www.cdta.com.au
But then again we are all taught differently arent we? I happen to think those that think speeding is acceptable are idiots but my friend was taught 'keep up with the flow of traffic'.
Some company cars have the lights go on as soon as the engine starts, as do some of the newer motorbikes, so there must be something in it.
Try reading this official report done by the european road safety commission instead of articles on driving tips. Pay particular attention to the part about motorbikes, basically they are saying if everyone has lights on then its near on impossible to distinguish a motorcycle from any other vehicle. How can that be road safe?
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_s...ty_devices.htm
The link I previously posted said the whole headlight thing while driving was started by Greyhound buses in the US initially as a gimmick.
Are you the sort of driver that hasn't had any accidents but seen plenty in her mirrors? ala driving miss daisy
Apr 23rd 2010, 11:16 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
I think it's a stupid law too. I mean if people were having their limbs torn off on a daily basis the world over, it would make sense.
Apr 24th 2010, 4:02 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
I didnt know about the elbow one. Although my friends dad rolled his Ute the other week, he always drives with his elbow out of the window, but he managed to pull it in as he swerved off the road. Ambulance driver reckoned he would have lost part of his arm had he not got it inside in time with the type of crash he had.
I drive with my windows shut and the air con on anyway.
Actually I am meant to be driving to the gym this morning but I will cycle instead and I shall have both elbows flapping away.
I drive with my windows shut and the air con on anyway.
Actually I am meant to be driving to the gym this morning but I will cycle instead and I shall have both elbows flapping away.
The law is an ass but is sometimes based on sound reasoning. I mean you are in control of over a ton of machinery. It's not a game.
Apr 24th 2010, 4:52 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
Total bollox... end of.
I drive one handed all the time, I drive a manual shift and I have to change the gears once in every while.. occassionally I change the radio channel or perhaps insert a cd into the player...
In general I adopt the 10 to 10 stance upon the steering wheel but feel free to extract a few hundred bucks for the odd time that I don't ! 
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Apr 24th 2010, 4:57 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
Because the fines in general that they dish out are pissing ridiculous... but someone is bound to come on and say "its the law, so get over it"...
Total bollox... end of.
I drive one handed all the time, I drive a manual shift and I have to change the gears once in every while.. occassionally I change the radio channel or perhaps insert a cd into the player... In general I adopt the 10 to 10 stance upon the steering wheel but feel free to extract a few hundred bucks for the odd time that I don't !
Em x
Total bollox... end of.
I drive one handed all the time, I drive a manual shift and I have to change the gears once in every while.. occassionally I change the radio channel or perhaps insert a cd into the player...
In general I adopt the 10 to 10 stance upon the steering wheel but feel free to extract a few hundred bucks for the odd time that I don't ! Em x
Apr 24th 2010, 5:01 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
I would not be game to stick my arm out of the window people are a little close and personal in our traffic in Melbourne. 
Besides we have aircon, heating who needs to open the windows
Besides we have aircon, heating who needs to open the windows
Apr 24th 2010, 5:17 pm
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Re: Why is this a law?
It has nothing to do with controlling the vehicle methinks.
Apr 24th 2010, 5:23 pm
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Apr 24th 2010, 5:25 pm
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