Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
Apr 19th 2007, 1:27 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
I think tho for all the people cracking up about those sort of posts there are people who quietly take it in and arrive far more prepared simply because someone like you did bother to write about it. So I'll send ya some karma
Apr 19th 2007, 1:37 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
Thats OK to say if it worked out for you, but what about all the ones going back who didnt do a research trip, nearly always the ones weve seen go back never visited first. People quote it sets them back 30/40/60 grand, I imagine the cost of selling houses, commissions, fees, shipping, currency fluctuations, weeks or months of unemployment, setting up costs, selling it all up again a and shipping it all back again is slightly more of a 'waste' than the cost of a few weeks temp accom and airfares on research.
I can't believe that anybody would place the future wellbeing and prosperity of themsleves and their family at the mercy of a country and system they had never even visited before!
Many of the people that seem to be going back (IMO) do seem to be in industries where the states jerk them around for months after arrival with trade licencing etc, which prevents them from getting a good start in the first place. But then again, good research should prepare people for these problems.
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Apr 19th 2007, 2:00 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
I dont mind reading negative things about any country, what I cant stand is people putting their own personal views across as if they are fact and everyone who doesnt agree must be wrong, plus they think because that's how they feel the place must be to blame.
For instance, I am fed up of hearing how awful Perth is because people walk around barefoot - so bloody what???? Doesnt mean you dont have to do it (I know I certainly want shoes on my feet unless I'm walking round my own home) so what's the big deal?
I didnt come on a reccie, couldnt afford it and TBH I thought I'd get cold feet if we came first (OH had been before) and I've not had one single bit of homesickness or wanted to go back, we've been here 18 months now.
I know of one couple going back who'd already been here twice before so doing a reccie is certainly no guarantee that things will work out for you. I guess a lot of people dont realise how much they will miss things until they've gone.
I agree with Biggy: you still have to get up and go to work, you still have bills to pay - it's LIFE here not one long holiday - but I certainly wouldnt swap it.
For instance, I am fed up of hearing how awful Perth is because people walk around barefoot - so bloody what???? Doesnt mean you dont have to do it (I know I certainly want shoes on my feet unless I'm walking round my own home) so what's the big deal?
I didnt come on a reccie, couldnt afford it and TBH I thought I'd get cold feet if we came first (OH had been before) and I've not had one single bit of homesickness or wanted to go back, we've been here 18 months now.
I know of one couple going back who'd already been here twice before so doing a reccie is certainly no guarantee that things will work out for you. I guess a lot of people dont realise how much they will miss things until they've gone.
I agree with Biggy: you still have to get up and go to work, you still have bills to pay - it's LIFE here not one long holiday - but I certainly wouldnt swap it.
Apr 19th 2007, 2:06 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
The cold hard fact is, that 2 weeks in Oz as a 'reccie' is of limited use - it WON'T tell you much more than you can gain from research over the internet. It also WON'T tell you is how long it will take to get to work, what's the best/worst areas to live, how you will find a job etc.
If you want to go for a look first, great, wonderful idea - but don't pontifcate on other peoples motives for not - which may often be financial also.
Apr 19th 2007, 2:06 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
The negative stuff has it's uses- taken with a pinch of salt.
It amazes me how many people seem to go having never even visited before.
I'm sure lots of people expect 'UK with sun'
(the same kind of people who complain about Spain not having decent fish and chips etc 
)
I much prefer to read about those who have had it hard, but stuck it out and come good in the end.
It amazes me how many people seem to go having never even visited before.
I'm sure lots of people expect 'UK with sun'
(the same kind of people who complain about Spain not having decent fish and chips etc )I much prefer to read about those who have had it hard, but stuck it out and come good in the end.
Apr 19th 2007, 2:11 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
we couldnt afford to come over on a reccie either......and in our opinion we wouldnt have got a true impression of the place...as its totally different when yer in holiday mode to daily living.
the money that we would have spent on a reccie fully furnished our house...we had made up our minds we were comin and we were stayin end off lol
the money that we would have spent on a reccie fully furnished our house...we had made up our minds we were comin and we were stayin end off lol
Apr 19th 2007, 2:15 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
Good for you ! However in the REAL WORLD some of us are more than capable of doing our research in advance and are flexible to deal with whatever life throws at us.
The cold hard fact is, that 2 weeks in Oz as a 'reccie' is of limited use - it WON'T tell you much more than you can gain from research over the internet. It also WON'T tell you is how long it will take to get to work, what's the best/worst areas to live, how you will find a job etc.
If you want to go for a look first, great, wonderful idea - but don't pontifcate on other peoples motives for not - which may often be financial also.
The cold hard fact is, that 2 weeks in Oz as a 'reccie' is of limited use - it WON'T tell you much more than you can gain from research over the internet. It also WON'T tell you is how long it will take to get to work, what's the best/worst areas to live, how you will find a job etc.
If you want to go for a look first, great, wonderful idea - but don't pontifcate on other peoples motives for not - which may often be financial also.
S
Apr 19th 2007, 2:51 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
The negative stuff has it's uses- taken with a pinch of salt.
It amazes me how many people seem to go having never even visited before.
I'm sure lots of people expect 'UK with sun' (the same kind of people who complain about Spain not having decent fish and chips etc )
I much prefer to read about those who have had it hard, but stuck it out and come good in the end.
It amazes me how many people seem to go having never even visited before.
I'm sure lots of people expect 'UK with sun'
(the same kind of people who complain about Spain not having decent fish and chips etc )I much prefer to read about those who have had it hard, but stuck it out and come good in the end.
"As for uk v oz
What in everyday life is so different between the two countries except better weather?
Do people speak a different language?
Do you have to work or not?
Did you have to travel to the beach for more than 20 minutes as you couldnt afford a house by the ocean?
Are there no taxes or laws or stupid red tape in oz?
Are there no drugs/crime/idiots
So why isnt it the UK with sun
im not having a go i just would like an answer as i cant see it any other way. The only reason we are moving there is for the weather. I fully expect everyhting to be as good or bad as the u. I dont care about people in barefoot or not in next clothing. Live and let live as long as im warm.
Live in piss it down for 11 months manchester and be a motorbiker and youll know what i mean.
al
Apr 19th 2007, 3:24 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
I dont think it's like the UK with better weather either.
It's the little things I guess: although some things are similar to the UK there are also American influences.
Sense of humour is a big thing that's different, sometimes you'll say something as a joke that a Pom would just laugh at but you get a strange look as the Aussies obviously dont understand what you're on about or think you're serious, plus there are many Aussies who think Benny Hill on a Saturday night is absolutley hilarious...
And words they use for things are different which can lead to confusion, my Aussie friends think it's hilarious when I mention that I have to hoover the house, they call trousers pants which I still havent got used to, there's loads of words that are different and you do sometimes get looked at like you've got two heads if you ask in a shop for something and you've used the UK word without realising it's called something else here!
I dont know, it's hard to put a finger on exactly what is different, like I said it's lots of little things really that add up to a big difference. Of course, there are positives and negatives like anywhere, best to come with an open mind and dont expect it to be like anywhere else.
It's the little things I guess: although some things are similar to the UK there are also American influences.
Sense of humour is a big thing that's different, sometimes you'll say something as a joke that a Pom would just laugh at but you get a strange look as the Aussies obviously dont understand what you're on about or think you're serious, plus there are many Aussies who think Benny Hill on a Saturday night is absolutley hilarious...
And words they use for things are different which can lead to confusion, my Aussie friends think it's hilarious when I mention that I have to hoover the house, they call trousers pants which I still havent got used to, there's loads of words that are different and you do sometimes get looked at like you've got two heads if you ask in a shop for something and you've used the UK word without realising it's called something else here!
I dont know, it's hard to put a finger on exactly what is different, like I said it's lots of little things really that add up to a big difference. Of course, there are positives and negatives like anywhere, best to come with an open mind and dont expect it to be like anywhere else.
Apr 19th 2007, 3:28 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
I dont think it's like the UK with better weather either.
It's the little things I guess: although some things are similar to the UK there are also American influences.
Sense of humour is a big thing that's different, sometimes you'll say something as a joke that a Pom would just laugh at but you get a strange look as the Aussies obviously dont understand what you're on about or think you're serious, plus there are many Aussies who think Benny Hill on a Saturday night is absolutley hilarious...
And words they use for things are different which can lead to confusion, my Aussie friends think it's hilarious when I mention that I have to hoover the house, they call trousers pants which I still havent got used to, there's loads of words that are different and you do sometimes get looked at like you've got two heads if you ask in a shop for something and you've used the UK word without realising it's called something else here!
I dont know, it's hard to put a finger on exactly what is different, like I said it's lots of little things really that add up to a big difference. Of course, there are positives and negatives like anywhere, best to come with an open mind and dont expect it to be like anywhere else.
It's the little things I guess: although some things are similar to the UK there are also American influences.
Sense of humour is a big thing that's different, sometimes you'll say something as a joke that a Pom would just laugh at but you get a strange look as the Aussies obviously dont understand what you're on about or think you're serious, plus there are many Aussies who think Benny Hill on a Saturday night is absolutley hilarious...
And words they use for things are different which can lead to confusion, my Aussie friends think it's hilarious when I mention that I have to hoover the house, they call trousers pants which I still havent got used to, there's loads of words that are different and you do sometimes get looked at like you've got two heads if you ask in a shop for something and you've used the UK word without realising it's called something else here!
I dont know, it's hard to put a finger on exactly what is different, like I said it's lots of little things really that add up to a big difference. Of course, there are positives and negatives like anywhere, best to come with an open mind and dont expect it to be like anywhere else.
al
Apr 19th 2007, 3:31 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
I believe there are many posters here who believe they are better off in Oz but if they really analysed their decision to move would realise their previous lives offered them more.
They choose to sweep that sentiment under the carpet by putting their fingers in their ears and shouting ...
Blah Blah Blah Blah ...
Sometimes a bad decision is hard to admit.
I am full of admiration to those posters who give an honest and frank opinion on how things sit.
They choose to sweep that sentiment under the carpet by putting their fingers in their ears and shouting ...
Blah Blah Blah Blah ...
Sometimes a bad decision is hard to admit.
I am full of admiration to those posters who give an honest and frank opinion on how things sit.
Hi everyone just been reading the post from the user who isn't happy living in Perth
I too have posted of not enjoying my experience of emigrating to Sydney and just feel annoyed at the usual response "take it to the Moving back to Uk forum"
It is like a lot of you people can't take to hear anything negative or anyone who is not living in a mansion with pool, swimming in sea everyday, sunbathing and enjoying BBQ's every night with their regions of Australian friends. You know a bit of realism about the move might do you good.
I personally feel that before you emmigrate is the best time to read of other people's DIFFERENT experiences.
I am not talking about negativity but I for one would have like to have known how hard it is for a qualified nurse and teacher to actually get work over here or how bad traffic is in most of the cities (yes I know they are cities and you should expect some traffic but 1 hour jams are the norm even an hours drive out of the city)
There are good and bad things about Oz the beaches are beautiful, but it is too expensive for most to live close to them, the people we have meet have all been really friendy but it is hard to make new friends, like it would be anywhere!
Anyway sorry everyone rant over (having a bad day today) just think there should be a bit of a balance of this site and everyones opinion is valid
I too have posted of not enjoying my experience of emigrating to Sydney and just feel annoyed at the usual response "take it to the Moving back to Uk forum"
It is like a lot of you people can't take to hear anything negative or anyone who is not living in a mansion with pool, swimming in sea everyday, sunbathing and enjoying BBQ's every night with their regions of Australian friends. You know a bit of realism about the move might do you good.
I personally feel that before you emmigrate is the best time to read of other people's DIFFERENT experiences.
I am not talking about negativity but I for one would have like to have known how hard it is for a qualified nurse and teacher to actually get work over here or how bad traffic is in most of the cities (yes I know they are cities and you should expect some traffic but 1 hour jams are the norm even an hours drive out of the city)
There are good and bad things about Oz the beaches are beautiful, but it is too expensive for most to live close to them, the people we have meet have all been really friendy but it is hard to make new friends, like it would be anywhere!
Anyway sorry everyone rant over (having a bad day today) just think there should be a bit of a balance of this site and everyones opinion is valid
Apr 19th 2007, 3:33 am
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Apr 19th 2007, 3:33 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
Like I said, I cant say what the difference is as such, but it is there...
Maybe it's the family thing, Aussies definitely do like to spend more time with their families especially kids, you always see them in the parks at weekends, big groups having BBQs and playing cricket or whatever.
Less emphasis on labels (certainly in my neck of the woods) no looking down on people because they are wearing something from Best & Less that cost $5.
That is just a couple more examples, like I said it's little things that add up...
Maybe it's the family thing, Aussies definitely do like to spend more time with their families especially kids, you always see them in the parks at weekends, big groups having BBQs and playing cricket or whatever.
Less emphasis on labels (certainly in my neck of the woods) no looking down on people because they are wearing something from Best & Less that cost $5.
That is just a couple more examples, like I said it's little things that add up...
Apr 19th 2007, 3:34 am
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Apr 19th 2007, 3:35 am
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Re: Why can't some people stand to hear negative views of Australia
Answer the question then please to inform me.
I have given my view earlier why i think it is
Please change my mind or open my eyes as to HOW different it is.
Just sying that it is isnt helping anyone
thanks
al