Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
May 15th 2007, 2:13 pm
#47
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
Why would anyone in their right mind want to see a 500% increase in the price of fuel ? Do you think you will have a hugh pay rise to match the obvious rise in the cost of living
May 15th 2007, 2:14 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
I was wondering why anyone would want that too...
May 15th 2007, 2:19 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
Also if we only ever purchased what we needed then a big recession would ensue.
May 15th 2007, 2:20 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
I have acouple of questions to pose!
why do people require 4X4's in the city if they do not drive off road?
why do they beleive that the environmental impact of this vehicle as daily transport is acceptable, hen clearley thay speaw tons of CO2 in the atmosphere each year?
why do they think is ok to drive a car that sits higher than the safety zones on all other cars? thus when they collide the 4X4 is ok but the passengers in the normal car are all dead?
these cars tend to be higher and heavier and wil cause a child to die if run over?
Don't get me wrong these vehicles have their time and place, however this place is as a working vehicle, and normaly is not required for most people to get to the local shops, work or school. Unless you live in the bush and you live at the end of a dirt road!
Did you know even the Mini 1 has I higher CO2 output that an Freelander.....
May 15th 2007, 2:46 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
Originally Posted by nickyjohnt
Why would anyone in their right mind want to see a 500% increase in the price of fuel ? Do you think you will have a hugh pay rise to match the obvious rise in the cost of livingIf the government would allow me to buy property here I don't think I'd even need utilities other than sewage to be connected. We get a lot of sunlight and I commute on a pushbike.
The increase in the cost of living is what you make it. I admittedly own a car, but the last time I went to use it I had to jump start it as it'd been sitting for so long. It's not an old car - an 01 vectra - which i chose because it's frugal on the highway and that's all i do with it.
There's two outcomes I'd like to see from a massive increase in fuel taxation - firstly to stem the profligate manner in which we use energy, and secondly to provide considerably more funds to further the research and infrastructure for properly sustainable energy systems like solar and wind.
There's no reason we can't enjoy the kind of transport and other living conveniences we do today under a sustainable energy model - it just requires that we take the cash from coal and oil companies and give it to solar and wind outfits.
I find it hard to credit that anyone with kids would think differently. I don't incidentally - we may in the future, but it doesn't look like the world will be a great place in 80yrs time.
May 15th 2007, 2:56 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
A 500% increase in the price of fuel does not by definition mean that one's cost of living has to increase proportionally. Mine certainly wouldn't.
If the government would allow me to buy property here I don't think I'd even need utilities other than sewage to be connected. We get a lot of sunlight and I commute on a pushbike.
The increase in the cost of living is what you make it. I admittedly own a car, but the last time I went to use it I had to jump start it as it'd been sitting for so long. It's not an old car - an 01 vectra - which i chose because it's frugal on the highway and that's all i do with it.
There's two outcomes I'd like to see from a massive increase in fuel taxation - firstly to stem the profligate manner in which we use energy, and secondly to provide considerably more funds to further the research and infrastructure for properly sustainable energy systems like solar and wind.
There's no reason we can't enjoy the kind of transport and other living conveniences we do today under a sustainable energy model - it just requires that we take the cash from coal and oil companies and give it to solar and wind outfits.
I find it hard to credit that anyone with kids would think differently. I don't incidentally - we may in the future, but it doesn't look like the world will be a great place in 80yrs time.
If the government would allow me to buy property here I don't think I'd even need utilities other than sewage to be connected. We get a lot of sunlight and I commute on a pushbike.
The increase in the cost of living is what you make it. I admittedly own a car, but the last time I went to use it I had to jump start it as it'd been sitting for so long. It's not an old car - an 01 vectra - which i chose because it's frugal on the highway and that's all i do with it.
There's two outcomes I'd like to see from a massive increase in fuel taxation - firstly to stem the profligate manner in which we use energy, and secondly to provide considerably more funds to further the research and infrastructure for properly sustainable energy systems like solar and wind.
There's no reason we can't enjoy the kind of transport and other living conveniences we do today under a sustainable energy model - it just requires that we take the cash from coal and oil companies and give it to solar and wind outfits.
I find it hard to credit that anyone with kids would think differently. I don't incidentally - we may in the future, but it doesn't look like the world will be a great place in 80yrs time.
You could maybe get a discount direct from the original supplier if you go pick up all you need to live on yr pushbike from them
May 15th 2007, 2:57 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
Should we dispute every van, hgv, bus , plane as that can effect the atmosphere.
Oh god of course not because that would mean no one can go on holiday or no one can get on a bus if they have no transport, and it means that no work for the hgv companys
I think that if someone wants one what business is it of anyone as long as they pay the taxes.
Oh god of course not because that would mean no one can go on holiday or no one can get on a bus if they have no transport, and it means that no work for the hgv companys
I think that if someone wants one what business is it of anyone as long as they pay the taxes.
May 15th 2007, 2:58 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
A 500% increase in the price of fuel does not by definition mean that one's cost of living has to increase proportionally. Mine certainly wouldn't.
If the government would allow me to buy property here I don't think I'd even need utilities other than sewage to be connected. We get a lot of sunlight and I commute on a pushbike.
The increase in the cost of living is what you make it. I admittedly own a car, but the last time I went to use it I had to jump start it as it'd been sitting for so long. It's not an old car - an 01 vectra - which i chose because it's frugal on the highway and that's all i do with it.
There's two outcomes I'd like to see from a massive increase in fuel taxation - firstly to stem the profligate manner in which we use energy, and secondly to provide considerably more funds to further the research and infrastructure for properly sustainable energy systems like solar and wind.
There's no reason we can't enjoy the kind of transport and other living conveniences we do today under a sustainable energy model - it just requires that we take the cash from coal and oil companies and give it to solar and wind outfits.
I find it hard to credit that anyone with kids would think differently. I don't incidentally - we may in the future, but it doesn't look like the world will be a great place in 80yrs time.
If the government would allow me to buy property here I don't think I'd even need utilities other than sewage to be connected. We get a lot of sunlight and I commute on a pushbike.
The increase in the cost of living is what you make it. I admittedly own a car, but the last time I went to use it I had to jump start it as it'd been sitting for so long. It's not an old car - an 01 vectra - which i chose because it's frugal on the highway and that's all i do with it.
There's two outcomes I'd like to see from a massive increase in fuel taxation - firstly to stem the profligate manner in which we use energy, and secondly to provide considerably more funds to further the research and infrastructure for properly sustainable energy systems like solar and wind.
There's no reason we can't enjoy the kind of transport and other living conveniences we do today under a sustainable energy model - it just requires that we take the cash from coal and oil companies and give it to solar and wind outfits.
I find it hard to credit that anyone with kids would think differently. I don't incidentally - we may in the future, but it doesn't look like the world will be a great place in 80yrs time.
Ps. I Drive a Hummer.
May 15th 2007, 3:03 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
you better back to your horse and cart then if you believe all the sh1te they feed you!!!!!
May 15th 2007, 3:07 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
Originally Posted by Perthforme
If fuel goes up 500% so does yr milk , bread , loo roll, ky , etc as it all comes by road , rail , plane etc .
You could maybe get a discount direct from the original supplier if you go pick up all you need to live on yr pushbike from them
You could maybe get a discount direct from the original supplier if you go pick up all you need to live on yr pushbike from them
You're incorrectly assuming that the whole cost of these products and/or services is borne by the transportation of the same, or the energy used in their production.
Of course there will be an increase, but it wouldn't be in line with the hypothetical* increase in cost of fossil fuel.
*Well, it won't be hypothetical for long.
May 15th 2007, 3:13 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
4lex,
You'll fit in well seeing as you live in the dream time.
You'll fit in well seeing as you live in the dream time.
May 15th 2007, 3:14 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
I just love it when these threads pop up!
May 15th 2007, 3:14 pm
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Re: Why by a 4X4 if you don't actualy need one
You're incorrectly assuming that the whole cost of these products and/or services is borne by the transportation of the same, or the energy used in their production.
Of course there will be an increase, but it wouldn't be in line with the hypothetical* increase in cost of fossil fuel.
*Well, it won't be hypothetical for long.
