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Who's your favourite Serial Killer?

Old Nov 29th 2010, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Manson is a convicted murderer who was found guilty of several counts of first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder via the conspiracy/joint-responsibility legislation.

One of his victims was Sharon Tate who was tortured and murdered while eight months pregnant. He has stated on several occasions that he has killed several people.
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Arthur Mitchell from Dexter - brilliant acting by John Lithgow
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
One of his victims was Sharon Tate who was tortured and murdered while eight months pregnant. He has stated on several occasions that he has killed several people.
I thought it was his people that killed Tate, not he himself. I know that he ordered the murder, but I don't think he was actually anywhere near the scene at the time
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Arthur Mitchell from Dexter - brilliant acting by John Lithgow
He is great as Arthur it has been fascinating seeing what made him act like that and his perfect family life falling apart.Sue.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 1:10 am
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
I thought it was his people that killed Tate, not he himself. I know that he ordered the murder, but I don't think he was actually anywhere near the scene at the time
As explained in my earlier post, he was found guilty of murder under a joint-responsibility/conspiracy mechanism. As he bloody well should have been.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
I thought it was his people that killed Tate, not he himself. I know that he ordered the murder, but I don't think he was actually anywhere near the scene at the time
To the best of anybody's knowledge Charles Manson never physically took part in the killing of anybody. So you are correct.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:07 am
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To the best of anybody's knowledge Charles Manson never physically took part in the killing of anybody. So you are correct.
Again, Charles Manson was convicted of first degree murder due to the reasons I mention above. This means is he guilty of first degree murder.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Again, Charles Manson was convicted of first degree murder due to the reasons I mention above. This means is he guilty of first degree murder.
Yeah, but he didn't actually kill anyone did he?
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Again, Charles Manson was convicted of first degree murder due to the reasons I mention above. This means is he guilty of first degree murder.
Ho hum... guilty he may be, physically taking part he was not.
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Yeah, but he didn't actually kill anyone did he?
That point seems to be a little difficult to get across.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Yeah, but he didn't actually kill anyone did he?
Depends what you mean by kill. He did not physically kill the seven people in question, although he has claimed to have murdered others. However, he did legally kill them as he was convicted for both first degree murder and conspiracy. He is a convicted killer, in other words despite some here not quite understanding the finer point sof the law used to convict him.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
That point seems to be a little difficult to get across.
Manson tried the same defence you're talking about. Thankfully he lost and was convicted for murder.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Depends what you mean by kill. He did not physically kill the seven people in question, although he has claimed to have murdered others. However, he did legally kill them as he was convicted for both first degree murder and conspiracy. He is a convicted killer, in other words despite some here not quite understanding the finer point sof the law used to convict him.
Yeah but, putting all that to one side, he never actually killed no-one . . .
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Yeah but, putting all that to one side, he never actually killed no-one . . .
Like I said, he is guilty of first degree of murder. If it helps, let the prosecutor of the case have a go:

"Manson is guilty of all seven counts of murder under the vicarious liability rule of conspiracy. It is also called the joint responsibility rule of conspiracy... The law is clear then that once a conspiracy is formed, each member of the conspiracy is criminally responsible for and equally guilty of crimes committed by his coconspirators which were in furtherance of the object of the conspiracy."

In other words, Manson is a convicted killer. He didn't have to physically do it to be responsible, you see.
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Old Nov 30th 2010, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Manson tried the same defence you're talking about. Thankfully he lost and was convicted for murder.
You're unreal... its a thread on a chat board titled "Who's your favourite Serial Killer?". It's not the ****ing Old Bailey.

Was he convicted of murder.. yes, I think we can all agree on that.

Should he have been convicted...yes, I think we can all agree on that as well.

Did he physically kill anybody himself.. evidence would suggest, no, he didn't. I would say that we could all agree on that as well but you don't seem capable of agreeing about anything.
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