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Old Nov 24th 2019, 2:38 pm
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Got to add, I know for a fact that there are a hell of a lot of Irish Nurses here currently. They are the big wave of overseas Nurses at present and have been for the past 4 years or more. . They are getting away from Irish health system in droves as quickly as possible. Basically the Victorian Health System is run by the Irish upper echelons of the Irish health service at present.

Things are definitely bad in the Irish Health Service for sure.

As for worrying about the UK. I'm more worried about what the people are going through and the split in people this has caused, even within families. It's across the whole country this bitter nasty split. Apparently it's going to last for at least 2 generations, maybe even more.
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Old Nov 25th 2019, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle View Post
Got to add, I know for a fact that there are a hell of a lot of Irish Nurses here currently. They are the big wave of overseas Nurses at present and have been for the past 4 years or more. . They are getting away from Irish health system in droves as quickly as possible. Basically the Victorian Health System is run by the Irish upper echelons of the Irish health service at present.

Things are definitely bad in the Irish Health Service for sure.

As for worrying about the UK. I'm more worried about what the people are going through and the split in people this has caused, even within families. It's across the whole country this bitter nasty split. Apparently it's going to last for at least 2 generations, maybe even more.
They'll get over it. The UK has been through much tougher exercises than Brexit and got through them

If people are going to let their politics break up their families, then the issue is with them and not the policy
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Old Nov 25th 2019, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle View Post
Got to add, I know for a fact that there are a hell of a lot of Irish Nurses here currently. They are the big wave of overseas Nurses at present and have been for the past 4 years or more. . They are getting away from Irish health system in droves as quickly as possible. Basically the Victorian Health System is run by the Irish upper echelons of the Irish health service at present.

Things are definitely bad in the Irish Health Service for sure.

As for worrying about the UK. I'm more worried about what the people are going through and the split in people this has caused, even within families. It's across the whole country this bitter nasty split. Apparently it's going to last for at least 2 generations, maybe even more.
Irish health system is indeed pretty bad. I've Irish at the back of me, three doors down from me and on the other side of the road from me. Another who was a neighbour for years recently moved out to a more affordable suburb. None indeed going back to Ireland. All have good jobs here and al remain pretty strongly identifying with being Irish and Irish culture. Two of the female side of these house holds work in health and all commented on the poor state of Irish health system. There is a fear that Australia has learnt nothing from the Irish bubble as well and likely heading down the same path.

Last time since a split would have been during the mining crisis. This split is more nation wide spread and the great fear is the undoing of Britain as a United nation in my opinion.
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Here we go again........

Nope. Really cannot be arsed
What you mean is you are unable to any flesh on your ideological stance. A stance I hasten to add has come close to witnessing the rapture of the capitalist system. Luckily socialist policy came to the rescue of the banking sector who appear to have learnt little and continue on a similar path. The argument is instead of storing up bad banking policy and forever looking after the top few %, it is high time to spread the wealth and in turn admit austerity has been a total failure and not a small threat to the entire democratic process.
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Obviously this goes much further than worrying about Britain. It's about the feasibility of democracy and changes within the Western world. Too many Brits appear to blame the EU when it was poor governance at home creating austerity and cutbacks and moving away from being a country where all have a stake towards a decent life. Obviously Australia has taken a similar path without the quite same dire consequences to date, but very, very far removed from the nation it was twenty or thirty years back.
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What you mean is you are unable to any flesh on your ideological stance. A stance I hasten to add has come close to witnessing the rapture of the capitalist system. Luckily socialist policy came to the rescue of the banking sector who appear to have learnt little and continue on a similar path. The argument is instead of storing up bad banking policy and forever looking after the top few %, it is high time to spread the wealth and in turn admit austerity has been a total failure and not a small threat to the entire democratic process.
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle View Post
Got to add, I know for a fact that there are a hell of a lot of Irish Nurses here currently. They are the big wave of overseas Nurses at present and have been for the past 4 years or more. . They are getting away from Irish health system in droves as quickly as possible. Basically the Victorian Health System is run by the Irish upper echelons of the Irish health service at present.

Things are definitely bad in the Irish Health Service for sure.

As for worrying about the UK. I'm more worried about what the people are going through and the split in people this has caused, even within families. It's across the whole country this bitter nasty split. Apparently it's going to last for at least 2 generations, maybe even more.
I have seen such anger between friends over this it is unreal. There is most definitely a split dividing the country and it is unsettling to see. It's a shame that it has become a centre point of the breaking down of families. Although I believe if something like this can break up a family, there has to be underlying issues going on in the first place.

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What you mean is you are unable to any flesh on your ideological stance. A stance I hasten to add has come close to witnessing the rapture of the capitalist system. Luckily socialist policy came to the rescue of the banking sector who appear to have learnt little and continue on a similar path. The argument is instead of storing up bad banking policy and forever looking after the top few %, it is high time to spread the wealth and in turn admit austerity has been a total failure and not a small threat to the entire democratic process.
As a low income earner you must have been a beneficiary of Scott Morrison's tax break for the poor. How dare you cough at such generosity.
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Irish health system is indeed pretty bad. I've Irish at the back of me, three doors down from me and on the other side of the road from me. Another who was a neighbour for years recently moved out to a more affordable suburb. None indeed going back to Ireland. All have good jobs here and al remain pretty strongly identifying with being Irish and Irish culture. Two of the female side of these house holds work in health and all commented on the poor state of Irish health system. There is a fear that Australia has learnt nothing from the Irish bubble as well and likely heading down the same path.

Last time since a split would have been during the mining crisis. This split is more nation wide spread and the great fear is the undoing of Britain as a United nation in my opinion.
Australia's gain, Ireland's loss. Here's a basic fact of life - skilled Western people move around the world with relative ease. Those nurses leaving Ireland will be replaced by other nurses moving to Ireland - the merry go round of life. Ireland is famous for losing people! This is nothing new

Ireland's health system remains free at point of use - any system that operates as such will often have pressure at certain points - nature of the beast. Have a look at the latest HDI rankings - the best indicator of the health of an economy - Ireland is bossing it
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Originally Posted by Amazulu View Post
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I thought you said that you were leaving BE, never to return?
Yes I have left for the main part. Saying that though, just can't allow such untruths that you write go unchallenged. But here to help as usual those labouring under false assumptions either due to ignorance or ideological bias. Even if few read and even less bother to challenge.

Your take on the Irish economy being a prime example but not to worry there remain some on here that can correct your over sights and tell it how it really is. The Irish bust was very severe and low taxes on international business failed big time and we all saw the results of an over inflated Irish housing market.
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Australia's gain, Ireland's loss. Here's a basic fact of life - skilled Western people move around the world with relative ease. Those nurses leaving Ireland will be replaced by other nurses moving to Ireland - the merry go round of life. Ireland is famous for losing people! This is nothing new

Ireland's health system remains free at point of use - any system that operates as such will often have pressure at certain points - nature of the beast. Have a look at the latest HDI rankings - the best indicator of the health of an economy - Ireland is bossing it
But where is the wonderful Irish economy you used as an example? Ireland being an example of what low taxes resulting in austerity added to over inflated house prices resulting in greed and unleashing the crash in house prices witnessed in that country. It appears little was learnt with similar mistakes being rein acted.

Australia is hardly the attractive proposition it once was. In fact a lot of Irish have returned. More interest in Canada from that country of late, I'm told. Australia itself is witnessing a growing loss of native born as well as immigrants leaving once acquiring citizenship. Too expensive housing and poorer public services, from aged care to health and university education to child care. Most everything seems to cost more in Australia without the necessary value.

Why wouldn't an educated young person decide on USA or even Canada (although the latter suffers a degree of housing stress like Australia) or make a career in Singapore or elsewhere? Many do not always for economic reasons, obviously, but that is a factor.
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As a low income earner you must have been a beneficiary of Scott Morrison's tax break for the poor. How dare you cough at such generosity.
I wouldn't notice such a bribe , quite frankly. The real ones set to gain, are whom it was intended for, those being the top of the pile and business. Yes, an appalling decision, in a time of falling living standards, austerity cutbacks and failing social provision amounting to an ever more divided society. The cost of which most al will bare at some level .
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But where is the wonderful Irish economy you used as an example? Ireland being an example of what low taxes resulting in austerity added to over inflated house prices resulting in greed and unleashing the crash in house prices witnessed in that country. It appears little was learnt with similar mistakes being rein acted.

Australia is hardly the attractive proposition it once was. In fact a lot of Irish have returned. More interest in Canada from that country of late, I'm told. Australia itself is witnessing a growing loss of native born as well as immigrants leaving once acquiring citizenship. Too expensive housing and poorer public services, from aged care to health and university education to child care. Most everything seems to cost more in Australia without the necessary value.

Why wouldn't an educated young person decide on USA or even Canada (although the latter suffers a degree of housing stress like Australia) or make a career in Singapore or elsewhere? Many do not always for economic reasons, obviously, but that is a factor.
Read about and understand what HDI is and then we'll discuss

The Irish people still have the ability to choose their government. If they are not happy with what's going on there is an alternative and they can change the government at the next election. Thats all we need to know.
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Read about and understand what HDI is and then we'll discuss

The Irish people still have the ability to choose their government. If they are not happy with what's going on there is an alternative and they can change the government at the next election. Thats all we need to know.
So please resist from using Ireland as an example, to a political novice, as a positive example, when it fact it exemplifies failed economic policy. Most western governments have the ability to change government but many influences rather than good policy can and does influence the vote. Perhaps people should pass a test on political literacy?
May save themselves a lot of pain if that was the process. Yourself would obviously be disqualified making such an Irish howler of a claim.
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So please resist from using Ireland as an example, to a political novice, as a positive example, when it fact it exemplifies failed economic policy. Most western governments have the ability to change government but many influences rather than good policy can and does influence the vote. Perhaps people should pass a test on political literacy?
May save themselves a lot of pain if that was the process. Yourself would obviously be disqualified making such an Irish howler of a claim.
Read about and understand what HDI is and then we'll discuss
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