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Old Aug 18th 2010, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by renth
They'd be going cap in hand to the EU, so England would still be partially subsidising them.
An independent Scotland would be in the same basket-case league as Greece, Portugal, Spain etc.

They would become part of the PIGSS.
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Originally Posted by renth
Hmm, why not buy a load of shares in Origin, that way your dividend is subsidizing your bill. Sounds like a good hedging strategy, what do you reckon?
I morally couldn't do it. It would be like owning shares in a crack house when the people who need it just pay whatever the going rate is and go away with a whimper.
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Old Aug 18th 2010, 1:13 pm
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And make them pay a toll to come into England. Why not - the Welsh started with the Severn Bridge.

Actually, visas for them would be an earner too. A visa on entry system of 20 quid.

Means test benefits as well and include the value of your satellite dish system, cigarettes that you smoke per annum, burberry collection, staffy pup farming cash income, and of course the value of your car stereo system, wheels and fat exhaust.
Are you standing for election on Saturday? I'd vote for you.
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How about ditching all the money spent on converting official documents into multiple languages... including Welsh.

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How about ditching all the money spent on converting official documents into multiple languages... including Welsh.
Is Welsh anyones first language? I know it's their heritage and stuff but are there people in Wales who can only talk Welsh and not any English? If not then no documents shouldn't be translated just because they 'like' talking that language.

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Is Welsh anyones first language? I know it's their heritage and stuff but are their people in Wales who can only talk Welsh and not any English? If not then no documents shouldn't be translated just because they 'like' talking that language.
We have friends who live in Pennal, a tiny little place near the coast in West Wales. They speak fluent Welsh and speak it the bulk of the time in their everyday business.... and even they think its daft to have all the doco in both languages.
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We have friends who live in Pennal, a tiny little place near the coast in West Wales. They speak fluent Welsh and speak it the bulk of the time in their everyday business.... and even they think its daft to have all the doco in both languages.
Well there you go then! There's you, me and the couple in Pennal who want Welsh translation scrapped, let's make it happen.
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
How about ditching all the money spent on converting official documents into multiple languages... including Welsh.
Works for me.

Here's another:
Cut all funding for ALL non-core local authority commitments. So only things like policing, fire brigade, waste collection, education, old peoples nomes etc will be funded.
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Originally Posted by LouiseR
Well there you go then! There's you, me and the couple in Pennal who want Welsh translation scrapped, let's make it happen.
It's a done deal then.
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We have friends who live in Pennal, a tiny little place near the coast in West Wales. They speak fluent Welsh and speak it the bulk of the time in their everyday business.... and even they think its daft to have all the doco in both languages.
No sh*t - I used to work in Pennal, at the hotel/timeshare resort there. Once you got to know them (through working with them, mainly) the locals were lovely people and yes, Welsh is their 1st language.
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Originally Posted by renth
No sh*t - I used to work in Pennal, at the hotel/timeshare resort there. Once you got to know them (through working with them, mainly) the locals were lovely people and yes, Welsh is their 1st language.
That will be Plas Talgarth. My mate, John Jones would you believe, is the head of the maintenance section.
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That will be Plas Talgarth. My mate, John Jones would you believe, is the head of the maintenance section.
That's the place, had a lot of fun working there one summer. Long time ago though, back in 1985.

Jones? why would that name ring a bell!
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We have friends who live in Pennal, a tiny little place near the coast in West Wales. They speak fluent Welsh and speak it the bulk of the time in their everyday business.... and even they think its daft to have all the doco in both languages.
I used to live near Pennal (in Machynlleth) and worked in an optician's in both Aberystwyth and Dolgellau - I'd say most of the people there have Welsh as their first language - but I can't think of any who couldn't also speak English, and more to the point weren't happy to speak English when they realised my Welsh extended as far as 'I'm sorry, I don't speak Welsh' and 'Thank you'.

I agree with you Iam - most of the people I worked with thought it was mad to have everything (and that is absolutely everything!!) in both languages.
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Well there you go then! There's you, me and the couple in Pennal who want Welsh translation scrapped, let's make it happen.
Yes but no but . . . that would be denying my human rights as a cottageburningsheepshagger . . . you see . . .
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Originally Posted by renth
Grant those subsidy junkie countries Scotland and Wales their independence.

I'm in full agreement with this!


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