OzTennis

See above post. End of.

Muslims are apparently ok if you can make billions in their countries, get them to finance your businesses, employ them as your workers and have them as customers.

OzTennis

Speaking of foreign policy and why the world is concerned about Trump, here's why the UK is worried about the loose cannon in the White House:

Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin alliance sparks diplomatic crisis in UK

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-el...10-gsn0zd.html

morpeth

Well, I am unsure from a long term strategic point of view, considering possible trends in China and Islamic world, why wouldn't America want closer relations with Russia. Trump words make appear a wild card, but whether he will be the wild card when he is office who really knows.

Beoz

You seem to be softening your stance. Is the evidence just overwhelming your weak argument?

So now he only likes rich Muslims but still a racist because he hates poor Muslims? Did he actually say that somewhere? Can you show me? I thought his intentions were to enforce stricker entry guidelines from countries or regions known as terror hotbeds? No?

(I would also like to know when a religion became a race)

(Was Hitler mentioned somewhere? Just quietly this is becoming laughable. Check out the gullible on BE ho ho ho)

scrubbedexpat098

No but I would like you to explain to me whether the black people doing the beating up are racist, bigoted, intolerant or just stupid. Using your logic, these are repesentitive of all Clinton voters

scrubbedexpat098

I don't recall Trump ever saying all Mexicans are rapists, he merely said Mexico's not sending their best and that he'd gladly build a door for the migrants that could add something to the American economy. That's sense not racism.

And all this bumph about Trump doing business in the middle east, why wouldn't he? Killary dealt arms there, at least he's building stuff not blowing it up.

I often wonder why it seems ok to be marginalize the white working class, and piss all over them in favour of immigrants. Perhaps these lovely generous lefties are just cynical enough to count each immigrant as a potential vote, and humanity has nothing to do with it?

My politics is pretty central, but I'm leaning right nowadays, not because I necessarily agree with right wing policies, it's more to do with distancing myself from lefty lunacy, arrogance and a complete inability to self critique.

Got lefties in here giving it large about the 3 wise monkeys, and the irony of such finger pointing is entirely lost on them.

GarryP

They were individual criminals. And in the same way I haven't called all Trump supporters KKK members, any party affiliation is secondary (unless you are a journalist).

Now, how about answering my question?

scrubbedexpat098

Which question was that? I'll have a stab

GarryP

http://britishexpats.com/forum/barbi.../#post12103688

What caused you to jump onto the Trump bandwagon, despite ...

scrubbedexpat098

You weren't quoting me, so I'd no reason to think you were asking me the question. Since you ask now though, I'm not on any band wagon. It's just convenient for you to label me, go figure indeed. Trump has been demonised in the press throughout the election campaign, and he's won in spite of it. He wasn't bought off by the press, and he was able to say some outragious things with no reprisal because he was in no-ones pocket.

For a long time now, I've been saying the common people in our society are being marginalized and driven towards extremist views, you can't go blaming me, or them because you and your lefty governors didn't listen. This Jonathon Pie character is spot on, well worth 7 minutes of your time, if you have an open mind that is, so probably best to leave it

GarryP

So, to you, the fact that he says the words you agree with is more important than the pretty obvious factor that he's lying his head off in saying them?

Trump wasn't demonised, he was accurately labelled. The point was you didn't care, did you? I don't think you cared either if the limited plans he did put forward were practical either.

And even though it was all about a country distant from here, you got engaged in it because ....

See that's the bit that gets me - the reason why someone who is objectively a second hand car salesman who you'd avoid if you were at a party with him, manages to spin a tall tale in such a way that people ignore the reality and buy in to the bull. You know he's a arrogant nasty piece of work that would sell you for spare parts if he could make a dollar out of it - yet you put that to the side because ...?

scrubbedexpat098

Because Killary deserves her nick name, she lies too, in fact there have been several instances of her U-turning on previous statements just for the sake of getting elected.

I'm not for Trump at all, they were both terrible candidates, but the bit that I'm a big fan of is the little man giving a massive **** you to people who haven't even got the decency to pretend that they matter.

Of course Trump lied, he's a politician now, but the fact that the people have stood up and said we've had enough is immensely pleasing to me. Clinton stood for no change, more of the same and lower class Americans have spoken. Good on em.

the troubadour

Least of all Trump knows, just how much a wild card he may or may not be.

the troubadour

Good on em. Trump unlikely to prove their saviour, but the dye has been broken. Real change may well result. People before economics further down the road. Now that would be revolutionary.

the troubadour

He's a businessman. Of course he lies, is suggestive, changes stance to suit the way of the wind, lies, takes what he can, narcissistic, a bully, but he has broken the mould. He will likely be sussed out soon enough, with real change more likely the next time around.