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BadgeIsBack Dec 9th 2017 4:03 am

TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 
I see the CFMEU are using workers funds as a pot to pay fines for disrupting work..potentially unlawfully..when will the workers ever learn..

And Bill Shorten is part of all this culture..the Liberals are a joke but I will never vote Labour...

Beoz Dec 9th 2017 10:01 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12396520)
I see the CFMEU are using workers funds as a pot to pay fines for disrupting work..potentially unlawfully..when will the workers ever learn..

And Bill Shorten is part of all this culture..the Liberals are a joke but I will never vote Labour...

Distrupting the potential for businesses to make money, which is taxed, which is fed right back into the very services union members want.

Dumb arse union members.

No wonder membership numbers are dropping like flies.

Amazulu Dec 9th 2017 11:36 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12396520)
I see the CFMEU are using workers funds as a pot to pay fines for disrupting work..potentially unlawfully..when will the workers ever learn..

And Bill Shorten is part of all this culture..the Liberals are a joke but I will never vote Labour...

The CFMEU is basically an organised crime organisation - with tax-free status

This in itself shouldn't be a big problem but unfortunately for us, they are Bill Shorten's bosses - and that is a problem

Stuck in Auckland Dec 9th 2017 11:41 pm

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The time of unions is finishing

The coming time of bad employer great employer will determine movement of labour.

Determine for yourself the likes of Amazon, Apple, Google,

and whether they can effectively maintain "solvent" trading while absorbing normal "tax" operations.

the troubadour Dec 10th 2017 2:10 am

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 
Don't agree at all. Of course membership is falling and has been for some time. This is more due to the decimation of industry with the out sourcing of labour to Asia. Or increased labour on short term contracts and the like. I know the area I am concerned with, a white collar area of employment, membership has grown considerably.


The Union ensured the law was followed during a serious restructure a year ago. Attempts by CEO to nullify Union involvement came to nought, apart from him losing his position inside half a year.
Ever more people have been convinced of the worth of union membership in such areas.
The likes of Murdoch and tabloid propaganda will unlikely prevail. People are waking up to the corporate scams of tax avoidance and 457 scams .

BadgeIsBack Dec 10th 2017 7:20 am

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..I look at the Unionists and think...a decent haircut and a decent shirt..no need for a Union..he he..

Memorable Turnbull: when he ripped into Shorten and Bill had to turn away...Malcolm on that occasion actually 'nailed it..'

Stuck in Auckland Dec 10th 2017 7:27 am

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12397018)
..I look at the Unionists and think...a decent haircut and a decent shirt..no need for a Union..he he..

Memorable Turnbull: when he ripped into Shorten and Bill had to turn away...Malcolm on that occasion actually 'nailed it..'

"get a haircut and a real job"

Beoz Dec 10th 2017 8:33 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12396959)
Don't agree at all. Of course membership is falling and has been for some time. This is more due to the decimation of industry with the out sourcing of labour to Asia. Or increased labour on short term contracts and the like. I know the area I am concerned with, a white collar area of employment, membership has grown considerably.


The Union ensured the law was followed during a serious restructure a year ago. Attempts by CEO to nullify Union involvement came to nought, apart from him losing his position inside half a year.
Ever more people have been convinced of the worth of union membership in such areas.
The likes of Murdoch and tabloid propaganda will unlikely prevail. People are waking up to the corporate scams of tax avoidance and 457 scams .

What a contradictory post. ....... zzzzzzzzzz

Amazulu Dec 10th 2017 12:59 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12397018)
..I look at the Unionists and think...a decent haircut and a decent shirt..no need for a Union..he he..

Memorable Turnbull: when he ripped into Shorten and Bill had to turn away...Malcolm on that occasion actually 'nailed it..'

I'm certainly no great fan of M Turnbull (much preferred T Abbott) but surely the Australian people can see what a crock of shite B Shorten really is?

the troubadour Dec 10th 2017 10:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12397049)
What a contradictory post. ....... zzzzzzzzzz

Obviously went over your head. Nothing contradictory at all. Do try and stay awake at the wheel.

the troubadour Dec 10th 2017 10:29 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by Stuck in Auckland (Post 12397022)
"get a haircut and a real job"


What's wrong with their haircut? I oppose corporate leeches and banksters as much as the next thinking man, but haircuts hardly come into it.

Stuck in Auckland Dec 10th 2017 10:30 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12397431)
What's wrong with their haircut? I oppose corporate leeches and banksters as much as the next thinking man, but haircuts hardly come into it.

ask georges mum

the troubadour Dec 10th 2017 10:35 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12397018)
..I look at the Unionists and think...a decent haircut and a decent shirt..no need for a Union..he he..

Memorable Turnbull: when he ripped into Shorten and Bill had to turn away...Malcolm on that occasion actually 'nailed it..'

No need of course if you want an ever fearful work place with no avenue to turn to in times of exploitation and abuse.

Stuck in Auckland Dec 10th 2017 10:37 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12397436)
No need of course if you want an ever fearful work place with no avenue to turn to in times of exploitation and abuse.

Does the exploitation not still take place?

Would not social pressure work better?

Beoz Dec 10th 2017 11:04 pm

Re: TRADE UNIONS..hmmm
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12397429)
Obviously went over your head. Nothing contradictory at all. Do try and stay awake at the wheel.

You say its declining (top marks for recognising the facts) then say more and more people are recognising its worth.

Now who's asleep at the wheel?


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