Time to arm UK patrol cops
#151
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
No, not in a million years, what I am saying is, there's more chance that the Krays would suffer this fate, because of their high profile criminal past than say someone with no criminal record.
#152
Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
I also want to make it clear that I'm not against the police also - they do do a difficult job, but they are also in part responsible for making things more difficult for themselves. I do still report things to the police but I do not trust them and they are directly responsible for that loss of trust.
#153
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
I think more UK cops need to carry guns than presently do, but I don't think every cop needs to carry a gun, there needs to be a balance. Beat cops in metropolitan areas should be armed, but the community officer in your local parish or the design out crime liason officer for example probably doesn't need one...
#154
Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
I think more UK cops need to carry guns than presently do, but I don't think every cop needs to carry a gun, there needs to be a balance. Beat cops in metropolitan areas should be armed, but the community officer in your local parish or the design out crime liason officer for example probably doesn't need one...
#156
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
And part of the coverup attempts often involve spreading innuendo and lies, <<snip>>, the Chief Constable Paul Whitehouse (who claimed Ashley had been wanted for murder), Sherree Bissett (who killed Adam Salter, linked to above) and her supposed investigator have done.
Last edited by lapin_windstar; Sep 23rd 2012 at 10:25 am.
#157
Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
I thought this list was interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_line_of_duty
reorganize by date of death and you have police being shot as far back as 1900.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_line_of_duty
reorganize by date of death and you have police being shot as far back as 1900.
#159
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
My feeling is that if you arm police you'll get shoot outs on the street, which are currently very rare in UK. UK is a very big population in a small place which makes it worse. And of course the number of illegal guns will go up as the criminals try to match the newly armed police force.
i've been an armed cop here (vancouver) for 15 years, around policing for close to 20.
Number of poilce shootouts in Vancouver last 15: 1
Number of bystanders killed in police shootout in Canada last 15: 1
Number of police officers shot in Canada the last 3 years: 0 (average is around 1 a year)
The UK police currently only have 5 percent firearm trained. The current response set up is of limited use as when you need a shooter you need it right away. NZ and Norway's cops are all firearms trained and have access to a fire arm at all times in their cars. Still not ideal but at least a compromise.
Lets not forget the shooting in the Lakes. Three unarmed police officers tried to stop the shooter after he shot 2 people. They let him go after he pointed a firearm at them. He then shot 10 more people.
In comparison. A gun man went postal here at Dawson College in Montreal and there just happened to be a an armed cop there. He was able to shoot him and seriously injure him. He then shot himself. One student died. Had he not been there god knows how many students would have died.
Last edited by Boy d; Sep 23rd 2012 at 10:54 pm.
#161
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Re: Time to arm UK patrol cops
peak violence is typically over in a matter of seconds....this is why front line coppers who are often going into unknowns need em.