Taxpayers make private schools rich
Sep 12th 2010, 8:45 pm
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Re: Taxpayers make private schools rich
My kids would not be allowed in private either as they would take away resources from others.
Sep 12th 2010, 8:48 pm
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Re: Taxpayers make private schools rich
Sep 12th 2010, 9:06 pm
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Re: Taxpayers make private schools rich
If every child went into taxpayer funded education and we shut down the private system the burden on the publicly funded schooling would increase significantly (11k$ per child) with only 2K$ per child being found in the cessation of the subsidy.
Therefore - worse than status quo for everyone involved. If the govt subsidies dropped - then a portion of the kids in current private education would undoubtedly divert into the sate system - with the same result, more burden for no more money = broken.
Sep 12th 2010, 9:21 pm
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What has that got to do with the taxation policy that you are complaining about so vehemently ? That not enough resources are diverted to specific areas of education? Thats a question for the minister of education - but Im not sure we have one now that Gillard has rolled that function into a new "skills" mandate.
If every child went into taxpayer funded education and we shut down the private system the burden on the publicly funded schooling would increase significantly (11k$ per child) with only 2K$ per child being found in the cessation of the subsidy.
If every child went into taxpayer funded education and we shut down the private system the burden on the publicly funded schooling would increase significantly (11k$ per child) with only 2K$ per child being found in the cessation of the subsidy.
can't pay, excluded.
disabled, excluded.
too 'difficult', excluded.
That's just a fact of life.. but I don't see why I should be expected to subsidize YOUR choice.
Sep 12th 2010, 9:30 pm
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Not to me it isn't.. you updated your numbers anyway later. I have no issue at all with you sending your kids to be private school.. but YOU pay. You made the choice to be outside the state system so why expect the state to continue to subsidise that cost?
Sep 12th 2010, 9:36 pm
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Your constant reference to the amounts of financial assistance are, as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant. YOU left the system, that should be the end of it.
If we are to believe your arguments then we should abolish state education entirely as it would save us a fortune. Is that what you advocate?. If not, why not?
Sep 12th 2010, 9:37 pm
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Its always remarkable how people can spin things if they see a threat to their pocket. Well no matter how you spin it private schooling IS elitist..
can't pay, excluded.
disabled, excluded.
too 'difficult', excluded.
That's just a fact of life.. but I don't see why I should be expected to subsidize YOUR choice.
can't pay, excluded.
disabled, excluded.
too 'difficult', excluded.
That's just a fact of life.. but I don't see why I should be expected to subsidize YOUR choice.
33% of the school population in Australia is in private schooling -that is not 'elitist'.
Sep 12th 2010, 9:40 pm
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Re: Taxpayers make private schools rich
I'll happily opt out of paying for other peoples kids to be educated.
Sep 12th 2010, 9:41 pm
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If government contribution to education was stopped, there are many people who would no longer continue with Private education, as it would be too expensive.
Unlike the few high cost ones that get the small government contribution of around $2,500 that we initially mentioned, there are many others where the fees would rise too much.
eg: The Private Catholic schools that charge about $1,000 per year, would then be up to $10,000-$11,000. The average family on $50k-$60k could no longer afford private schools.
If our fees lost the government contribution, of about $5,000 per year, we would be looking at about $12,000. We would have to go State. The result would be an extra expense to the taxpayer to educate our child of about another $7,000 per year.
Unlike the few high cost ones that get the small government contribution of around $2,500 that we initially mentioned, there are many others where the fees would rise too much.
eg: The Private Catholic schools that charge about $1,000 per year, would then be up to $10,000-$11,000. The average family on $50k-$60k could no longer afford private schools.
If our fees lost the government contribution, of about $5,000 per year, we would be looking at about $12,000. We would have to go State. The result would be an extra expense to the taxpayer to educate our child of about another $7,000 per year.
- Does it really make sense to increase the TAXPAYERS cost of education from $5,000 per year up to $12,000 per year, just to stop private education. ?
- Will the taxpayer be happy to cough up all that extra money ?
- Why would anyone want to try to justify increasing education costs in such a way ?
Sep 12th 2010, 9:46 pm
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Re: Taxpayers make private schools rich
It's called 'society'
Sep 12th 2010, 9:48 pm
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I'd be happy to opt out of paying towards your health, policing, defence and everything else I contribute towards that you make use of... but in reality I'm not a heartless bastard and see the need to help support people who can't support themselves.
It's called 'society'
It's called 'society'
Sep 12th 2010, 9:48 pm
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There are 55 special schools run by the independent sector in Australia, for children with special needs.
25 of these are in NSW.
I think that is a reasonable number. Don't you ?
