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TMRE Mar 18th 2009 3:07 pm

Speeding fine to the UK
 
Father in law has bee over for 2 weeks holiday and returned on 9th march. The nice chap (not) got a speeding fine for us through the door today 73km/h in a 60 zone. Had insured him and paid extra for it to cover him whilst he was here.He was driving the car out for the last time before he flew at 5pm to get some shopping. Being completely against speeding and having told him to slow down many a time when he was driving here I think he deserves to pay the penalty. Question is will they enforce it from here if we fill in the declaration? If not i'm not going to be a happy bunny:frown:. Just the last straw in a number of things he did that nearly ended up with me returning to the UK.

lapin_windstar Mar 18th 2009 4:21 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 
Sorry to hear that. Once you fill in the declaration, it's up to them to pursue. They could pursue it if they wanted to, even by just selling the debt to debt-collectors.

Judge Einfeld thought he was being clever by filling in his US-resident friend's name on his speeding fine so he wouldn't get the points. Unfortunately for him, they checked up on her and found out she wasn't in Australia at the time of the offence...because she was dead. :(

Einfeld has lost his job, reputation, maybe his pension and is lining up for prison: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...92-601,00.html

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 4:29 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396124)
Father in law has bee over for 2 weeks holiday and returned on 9th march. The nice chap (not) got a speeding fine for us through the door today 73km/h in a 60 zone. Had insured him and paid extra for it to cover him whilst he was here.He was driving the car out for the last time before he flew at 5pm to get some shopping. Being completely against speeding and having told him to slow down many a time when he was driving here I think he deserves to pay the penalty. Question is will they enforce it from here if we fill in the declaration? If not i'm not going to be a happy bunny:frown:. Just the last straw in a number of things he did that nearly ended up with me returning to the UK.

Dob him in . . . dob him in . . . dob him in . . .!

On the notification, it states a photographs has been taken of the driver at the time (from memory). It should be apparent from said photograph that its neither yourself (I assume), or your husband (I hope).

TMRE Mar 18th 2009 4:41 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7396303)
Dob him in . . . dob him in . . . dob him in . . .!

On the notification, it states a photographs has been taken of the driver at the time (from memory). It should be apparent from said photograph that its neither yourself (I assume), or your husband (I hope).

Oh don't worry I will. The infringement notice shows the car number plate from the rear and states "These images have been supplied as a courtesy only, clearer images are used for processing purposes", does that mean that no photo of the driver was taken then? Defiantly not hubby or I can prove that we were elsewhere at the time. Deserves the $200 fine as far as i'm concerned:sneaky:

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 4:43 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396339)
Oh don't worry I will. The infringement notice shows the car number plate from the rear and states "These images have been supplied as a courtesy only, clearer images are used for processing purposes", does that mean that no photo of the driver was taken then? Defiantly not hubby or I can prove that we were elsewhere at the time. Deserves the $200 fine as far as i'm concerned:sneaky:

Tell him it was $500, you've paid it for him and when can you have the cash . . . . serves the old duffer right!

TMRE Mar 18th 2009 4:52 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7396344)
Tell him it was $500, you've paid it for him and when can you have the cash . . . . serves the old duffer right!

:rofl: good idea, may tell him it was from NSW where the fines are higher:thumbup:

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 4:57 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396356)
:rofl: good idea, may tell him it was from NSW where the fines are higher:thumbup:

Not that I condone ripping off members of your extended family . . . but go on, stick the boot in! :D

waikiki Mar 18th 2009 4:58 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396124)
Father in law has bee over for 2 weeks holiday and returned on 9th march. The nice chap (not) got a speeding fine for us through the door today 73km/h in a 60 zone. Had insured him and paid extra for it to cover him whilst he was here.He was driving the car out for the last time before he flew at 5pm to get some shopping. Being completely against speeding and having told him to slow down many a time when he was driving here I think he deserves to pay the penalty. Question is will they enforce it from here if we fill in the declaration? If not i'm not going to be a happy bunny:frown:. Just the last straw in a number of things he did that nearly ended up with me returning to the UK.


Someone in my family got a speeding ticket whilst on holiday here from the UK and yep they did enforce it. Tracked him down via the hire car company and sent it to his UK home address. If you dont pay quick enough they lump extra on as well and continue chasing! :thumbsup:

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 5:04 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 
And anyways, 73 in a 60 might be a three-pointer (?) can't afford too many of those on your licence.

TMRE Mar 18th 2009 5:08 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by waikiki (Post 7396368)
Someone in my family got a speeding ticket whilst on holiday here from the UK and yep they did enforce it. Tracked him down via the hire car company and sent it to his UK home address. If you dont pay quick enough they lump extra on as well and continue chasing! :thumbsup:

Good will fill in his details then. It's our car not a hire one though.

Spartie he is the only member of the family who would deserve ripping off and it would recover some of the 2 weeks food/washing/trips out/insurance etc he forgot to contribute to. Looks like he will get away with $200 fine instead. Shame the points can't go on the UK licence though.

Burbage Mar 18th 2009 5:10 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396388)
Good will fill in his details then. It's our car not a hire one though.

Spartie he is the only member of the family who would deserve ripping off and it would recover some of the 2 weeks food/washing/trips out/insurance etc he forgot to contribute to. Looks like he will get away with $200 fine instead. Shame the points can't go on the UK licence though.

Does your husband know you talk about his dad like this?
Just asking.

TMRE Mar 18th 2009 5:20 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 7396396)
Does your husband know you talk about his dad like this?
Just asking.

Why does that have anything to do with this, yes he does know I talk about him like this and so does he. Your point is?

Burbage Mar 18th 2009 5:21 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396420)
Why does that have anything to do with this, yes he does know I talk about him like this and so does he. Your point is?

No point, merely asking. It's good to know that you are both of the same opinion, it wasn't clear.

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 5:28 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396388)
Good will fill in his details then. It's our car not a hire one though.

Spartie he is the only member of the family who would deserve ripping off and it would recover some of the 2 weeks food/washing/trips out/insurance etc he forgot to contribute to. Looks like he will get away with $200 fine instead. Shame the points can't go on the UK licence though.

Sounds like you've had one of THOSE visits!

DadAgain Mar 18th 2009 5:29 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 
Sticking the boot in and trying to claim you've paid it and bribing your family will only work if you are ahppy to accept the penalty points yourself!

Otherwise just fill in the stat-dec and they'll send on the fine to the UK! (My sister got one when visiting me).

I've heard, (although not confirmed so could be a urban myth), that if you dont pay the fine sent to the UK then it will be waiting for you next time you try and re-enter Australia with entry denied until you've fixed up your bill!

In contrast a speeding ticket I picked up in UK was never heard of again once my dad filled in the stat-dec with my Australian address details

TMRE Mar 18th 2009 5:45 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7396443)
Sounds like you've had one of THOSE visits!

Correct:thumbdown:

spartacus Mar 18th 2009 5:55 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396465)
Correct:thumbdown:

Ah well, chin up chuck!

moneypenny20 Mar 18th 2009 6:42 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 
His fine, he can pay it, end of. Go for it. :D

ShoreyM Mar 18th 2009 7:01 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 
[QUOTE=
In contrast a speeding ticket I picked up in UK was never heard of again once my dad filled in the stat-dec with my Australian address details[/QUOTE]

I used to work for the Central Ticket Office in the Uk and they are unable to enforce a ticket if the driver does not live in the Uk, it is beyond their jurisdiction. We often had people declaring they had relatives over from Ireland and we had to cancel the Notice. Also, the photos are only to identify the registration plate not the driver. Although, this was approx 6 years ago so things might have changed.

Bonnie65 Mar 18th 2009 7:38 pm

Re: Speeding fine to the UK
 

Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7396124)
Father in law has bee over for 2 weeks holiday and returned on 9th march. The nice chap (not) got a speeding fine for us through the door today 73km/h in a 60 zone. Had insured him and paid extra for it to cover him whilst he was here.He was driving the car out for the last time before he flew at 5pm to get some shopping. Being completely against speeding and having told him to slow down many a time when he was driving here I think he deserves to pay the penalty. Question is will they enforce it from here if we fill in the declaration? If not i'm not going to be a happy bunny:frown:. Just the last straw in a number of things he did that nearly ended up with me returning to the UK.

My father in law had no fewer than 3 speeding tickets while he was over here:rofl:
This was in a car which he purchased but which was registered in my hubby's name (to keep things simple with QT!)

Each time my hubby completed the Stat Dec to say it was FIL driving. FIL paid the first fine as it came while he was still here.
The second and third ones arrived after he had flown home and to the best of my knowledge he hasn't paid them. But then he probably won't ever be able to come back here due to medical reasons.....


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