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Re: solar power
Solar is a huge rip off, to install a system big enough to produce enough power to get anything back with the feed in tariff you would be paying so much for the system you wouldn't make a profit for many years.
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Re: solar power
Originally Posted by sue&bob
(Post 9672418)
Yes I was told that the electric company has always paid 7 cents,and the goverment use to pay 40cent then dropped it to 20cents ,now they pay NOTHING ,so all you get is 7cents,and Gillard wants to go green ,I dont get it ,she makes me see RED dont know about green !!
:thumbdown: Sue |
Re: solar power
It is like shooting fish in a barrel though :)
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
(Post 9672442)
not Labor as everyone is so quick to criticise
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Re: solar power
Originally Posted by chris955
(Post 9672437)
Solar is a huge rip off, to install a system big enough to produce enough power to get anything back with the feed in tariff you would be paying so much for the system you wouldn't make a profit for many years.
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Re: solar power
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
(Post 9672442)
It's nothing to do with Gillard. The feed-in tariffs are set by the State Govts. So you can blame the entry of Liberal Govts in WA, VIC and NSW for those changes, not Labor as everyone is so quick to criticise
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Re: solar power
Originally Posted by sue&bob
(Post 9672366)
Hi thanks everyone,im slowly understanding it ,so im thinking why have a big system if you cant use it all yourself during the day ,why should they have the pleasure in giving you 7cent when they want 22cent to buy it from them ,which is what i will need to do in the evenings anyway regardless how many panels i have. SO ive decided to work out how much i use in the day ,like the pool etc ,and maybe buy just enough to cover the daytime useage.I cant see the sence in buying lots of panels just to sell it to them for 7cents it doesnt make any sence.
So why was i asked by a salesman if i wanted to cover ALL my bill ,i said yes and he told me i would need 16-20 panels,but from how i see it even if i have 40 panels ,i would still need to buy electric in the evenings anyway ! Maybe it worked ok for people when they were offering 47cent a unit,but its just not worth it now. PLease correct me if im wrong but this is how i understand it :) Sue |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9672460)
WA, VIC & NSW should never have given those overly generous feed-in tariffs in the first place. They should have gone ahead and built more efficient power stations.
With the bastardization of the whole gas and coal generating industry by the fairies at the bottom of the garden - it could have been suicidal to invest in base load power generation. |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9672460)
WA, VIC & NSW should never have given those overly generous feed-in tariffs in the first place. They should have gone ahead and built more efficient power stations.
NSW's was the only one that was over-the-top generous. All the others had sustainable business plans, it just so happens that anti-green initiative Liberal state governments came into power in all of those and that is the reason why the initiatives were cut |
Re: solar power
Im living 25Km south of the equator right now. If solar worked anywhere, it would work here right?
It doesn't work. We use diesel..... Australia subsidises it..... Welcome to reality..... Slap |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
(Post 9672489)
Im living 25Km south of the equator right now. If solar worked anywhere, it would work here right?
It doesn't work. We use diesel..... Australia subsidises it..... Welcome to reality..... Slap |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
(Post 9672489)
Im living 25Km south of the equator right now. If solar worked anywhere, it would work here right?
It doesn't work. We use diesel..... Australia subsidises it..... Welcome to reality..... Slap The massive worldwide uptake of residential solar has meant that the cost of production of this technology has dropped dramatically in the last 3 years, meaning that affodability of rolling this type of technology in areas like the ones you are in is becoming more and more achievable. At this present point in time diesel is a cheaper option, however with the costs of solar production coming down dramatically every year the point of parity between solar and fossil fuels is not far away. If we stopped adopting solar today that point where renewable energy is cheaper or the same as fossil fuel energy will never come. |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
(Post 9672504)
It would work there, however the cost to set something up in those types of places is simply too expensive as grid reliability is so poor. Therefore you really need to be grid independent for it to be worthwhile. Grid independency means expensive storage systems.
The massive worldwide uptake of residential solar has meant that the cost of production of this technology has dropped dramatically in the last 3 years, meaning that affodability of rolling this type of technology in areas like the ones you are in is becoming more and more achievable. At this present point in time diesel is a cheaper option, however with the costs of solar production coming down dramatically every year the point of parity between solar and fossil fuels is not far away. If we stopped adopting solar today that point where renewable energy is cheaper or the same as fossil fuel energy will never come. |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 9672509)
A tiny island nation like Kiribati may not have the space for solar farms
A tiny island nation like Kiribati could use tidal turbines |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
(Post 9672504)
It would work there, however the cost to set something up in those types of places is simply too expensive as grid reliability is so poor. Therefore you really need to be grid independent for it to be worthwhile. Grid independency means expensive storage systems.
The massive worldwide uptake of residential solar has meant that the cost of production of this technology has dropped dramatically in the last 3 years, meaning that affodability of rolling this type of technology in areas like the ones you are in is becoming more and more achievable. At this present point in time diesel is a cheaper option, however with the costs of solar production coming down dramatically every year the point of parity between solar and fossil fuels is not far away. If we stopped adopting solar today that point where renewable energy is cheaper or the same as fossil fuel energy will never come. We have solar street lights. They are barely visible. Just about useless, and everyone agrees. We have eight 16 cylinder diesel engines, four of which work 24x7. They are Rustons, remnants of a British engineering empire. Each produces 4.5MW. Even then these things struggle to keep up with demand. They are trying to get the other four working. They need the power. Tell me how to generate 18MW using solar..... Even here, it just doesn't work. |
Re: solar power
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
(Post 9672520)
except he is in PNG
A tiny island nation like Kiribati could use tidal turbines Im on Nauru, and tidal turbines are useless in Kiribati. Its a coral atol with coral cullet and sand reefs that move around with every storm. Even the proposed USD50M deep water port is going to require USD10M of dredging EACH YEAR to keep it open. |
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