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welshdragon2010 Jul 11th 2010 12:30 am

SKYPE
 
OH flys out to Melbourne tonight, he has a job that gives him a laptop but with limited personal use to the internet.:(

So we were just wondering how easy is it to find and be able to use skype in an internet cafe, until he can sort out personal internet.

thanks for reading and helping us out.

silver Jul 11th 2010 12:43 am

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Pretty easy...

If it is to call home I would suggest trying to get something like a lebara sim card as these give v.cheap international calls from a mobile (he will need an unlocked mobile phone and these are not to expensive if he doesn't have one already). Maybe better than talking from an internet cafe... I think phones 4u sell them, or if in the CBD check out some of the shops on Lonsdale/Swanston Street intersections..

Kingseat Jul 11th 2010 12:48 am

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Originally Posted by welshdragon2010 (Post 8693449)
OH flys out to Melbourne tonight, he has a job that gives him a laptop but with limited personal use to the internet.:(

So we were just wondering how easy is it to find and be able to use skype in an internet cafe, until he can sort out personal internet.

thanks for reading and helping us out.

Can't you ask his employer for a bit of grace time to use skype only until he's sorted with internet himself? No harm n asking?

welshdragon2010 Jul 11th 2010 12:51 am

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ok, thanks for quick reply....he's got his Iphone unlocked.

next question then, is the v.cheap phone calls home to a land line?

Thanks.:)

welshdragon2010 Jul 11th 2010 12:59 am

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Originally Posted by Kingseat (Post 8693486)
Can't you ask his employer for a bit of grace time to use skype only until he's sorted with internet himself? No harm n asking?

Hi,

Yes he will ask, but just seeking out other options. Just incase they say no.

As up until last Friday, in last job, no one was allowed on FB.

shirlw Jul 11th 2010 7:04 am

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Originally Posted by welshdragon2010 (Post 8693449)
OH flys out to Melbourne tonight, he has a job that gives him a laptop but with limited personal use to the internet.:(

So we were just wondering how easy is it to find and be able to use skype in an internet cafe, until he can sort out personal internet.

thanks for reading and helping us out.

skype tp skype is free so why worry:D

silver Jul 11th 2010 7:10 am

Re: SKYPE
 

Originally Posted by welshdragon2010 (Post 8693494)
ok, thanks for quick reply....he's got his Iphone unlocked.

next question then, is the v.cheap phone calls home to a land line?

Thanks.:)

Yep and its not quite so cheap to uk mobiles but still not too bad...

He could also consider getting a 3 sim in Australia and using skype on his Iphone with a data pack (not quite so good a solution as lebara etc. but means he can use the internets as well.) He can also use part of the cap to call back to the uk..

If he hes a proper address and bank account pennysim from pennytel is very good as it does 8c untimed calls back to the UK.

Hope it helps...

silver Jul 11th 2010 7:13 am

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Originally Posted by shirlw (Post 8694171)
skype tp skype is free so why worry:D

Skype to Skype uses data however (which has a cost) and is often viewed as a security risk by many IT departments and often blocked...

shirlw Jul 11th 2010 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by silver (Post 8694182)
Skype to Skype uses data however (which has a cost) and is often viewed as a security risk by many IT departments and often blocked...

Quite right never thought of that;)

koalakim Jul 11th 2010 9:27 am

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Hi ya

If he's got Skype on his iphone then he just needs to get a whizzy new gadget out on the market. It's a pay-as-you-go mobile wifi. I think it's just Virgin who do it over here at the moment but I saw it in Dick Smiths just before we went back to the UK so I wondered if they did them in the UK.

Anyway, only 3 do them in the UK at the moment so we got one and it was wonderful! We did have a dongle but then kept fighting over the laptop to use the internet but with this you can operate upto 5 wifi items on it, you can use it in the car - wherever! Absolutely brilliant device! We then got in touch with 3 and they unlocked it for 15 quid so when we got to Singapore we bought a local datapack for it and saved us $20 a day in hotel internet charges.

So even if he gets a local sim card with a datapack you need wireless to operate Skype. The other alternative is to hang out in McD's a lot!

KK

Jen1977ni Jul 11th 2010 12:47 pm

Re: SKYPE
 

Originally Posted by silver (Post 8693478)
Pretty easy...

If it is to call home I would suggest trying to get something like a lebara sim card as these give v.cheap international calls from a mobile (he will need an unlocked mobile phone and these are not to expensive if he doesn't have one already). Maybe better than talking from an internet cafe... I think phones 4u sell them, or if in the CBD check out some of the shops on Lonsdale/Swanston Street intersections..

I second that, we've been using the lebara mobile simcard to phone home for months now and it's soooo cheap! The beauty of it as opposed to skype or other methods is that it can be carried around and used whenever...you're not limited to using it in a wifi zone or anything....

fisher lass Jul 11th 2010 8:49 pm

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Is there a "use it or loose it" with credit on this lebra card like some others?

We move over in Oct and are looking at this and internet options (needed for international work) for in our rental which we have for 6 months. We use skype just now and it is good but can cut out a lot.

Jen1977ni Jul 11th 2010 9:00 pm

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Originally Posted by fisher lass (Post 8695341)
Is there a "use it or loose it" with credit on this lebra card like some others?

We move over in Oct and are looking at this and internet options (needed for international work) for in our rental which we have for 6 months. We use skype just now and it is good but can cut out a lot.

Just checked their FAQ - 90 days, so it's very good...

http://www.lebara-mobile.com.au/en/faq.php

welshdragon2010 Jul 11th 2010 9:13 pm

Re: SKYPE
 
Thanks everyone for you help and information.

OH lands early Tuesdsay morning OZ time, I'll tell him to check this thread out.
he has to go to CBD on wed to sort out bank etc, so he should sort out mobile and internet while there.:fingerscrossed:

freebo Jul 11th 2010 11:23 pm

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Originally Posted by koalakim (Post 8694364)
Hi ya

If he's got Skype on his iphone then he just needs to get a whizzy new gadget out on the market. It's a pay-as-you-go mobile wifi. I think it's just Virgin who do it over here at the moment but I saw it in Dick Smiths just before we went back to the UK so I wondered if they did them in the UK.

Anyway, only 3 do them in the UK at the moment so we got one and it was wonderful! We did have a dongle but then kept fighting over the laptop to use the internet but with this you can operate upto 5 wifi items on it, you can use it in the car - wherever! Absolutely brilliant device! We then got in touch with 3 and they unlocked it for 15 quid so when we got to Singapore we bought a local datapack for it and saved us $20 a day in hotel internet charges.

So even if he gets a local sim card with a datapack you need wireless to operate Skype. The other alternative is to hang out in McD's a lot!

KK

I have the Virgin mifi one and second that, its great! Used it as our personal broadband until we got our home phone sorted out. $150 which includes 5Gb of data (a lot) but only for the first month (still I managed to use it up but it took some effort). I used it for skype and got good call quality. Got it from Dick Smith, Link

Another option is a Pennytel SIMM straight into his mobile, seems to be 43c per min to call the UK (landlines and mobiles), so quite a bit more than skype but maybe an easy option http://www.pennytel.com.au/Mobile-Ph...all-Rates.aspx

silver Jul 12th 2010 12:34 am

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Originally Posted by koalakim (Post 8694364)
Hi ya

If he's got Skype on his iphone then he just needs to get a whizzy new gadget out on the market. It's a pay-as-you-go mobile wifi. I think it's just Virgin who do it over here at the moment but I saw it in Dick Smiths just before we went back to the UK so I wondered if they did them in the UK.

Anyway, only 3 do them in the UK at the moment so we got one and it was wonderful! We did have a dongle but then kept fighting over the laptop to use the internet but with this you can operate upto 5 wifi items on it, you can use it in the car - wherever! Absolutely brilliant device! We then got in touch with 3 and they unlocked it for 15 quid so when we got to Singapore we bought a local datapack for it and saved us $20 a day in hotel internet charges.

So even if he gets a local sim card with a datapack you need wireless to operate Skype. The other alternative is to hang out in McD's a lot!

KK

The mifi (although its a good idea) isn't necessary as Skype on the iphone will work over the inbuilt 3g http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-...one-for-skype/ so no need to buy the extra device unless you really want to share an interconnection on the move.

The issues with using skype over any 3G connection will be the cost of the data it uses (it will use data when you aren't even calling) so if this is your chosen solution make sure you get a reasonable data cap and potentially call quality due to some of the aspects of using 3G data connections. McD's is a good idea..

There are also solutions to use SIP (proper voip) over 3G ( I would expect this to work better than skype and use potentially less data) such as iSIP which is free in the app store.

I would still suggest for the OP use something like lebara or get a 3 sim card for the iphone. Most reliable easy and probably best quality solution.

freebo Jul 12th 2010 10:36 am

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Originally Posted by silver (Post 8695856)
The mifi (although its a good idea) isn't necessary as Skype on the iphone will work over the inbuilt 3g http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-...one-for-skype/ so no need to buy the extra device unless you really want to share an interconnection on the move.

The issues with using skype over any 3G connection will be the cost of the data it uses (it will use data when you aren't even calling) so if this is your chosen solution make sure you get a reasonable data cap and potentially call quality due to some of the aspects of using 3G data connections. McD's is a good idea..

There are also solutions to use SIP (proper voip) over 3G ( I would expect this to work better than skype and use potentially less data) such as iSIP which is free in the app store.

I would still suggest for the OP use something like lebara or get a 3 sim card for the iphone. Most reliable easy and probably best quality solution.

All true, however I've been using the native skype client on my S60 and the call quality was horrible at times, probably down to CPU speed so maybe not a problem on the iPhone (depending on the model). When I used the same 3G connection on my Macbook with a headset quality was 100% better, so not a badwidth issue.

The mifi is a useful little unit and certainly more flexible than tethering.

Jen1977ni Jul 12th 2010 11:16 am

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Also, I meant to add, you can get a lebara uk sim, I sent one of these to my dad from the website and he thinks it's fantastic!

silver Jul 12th 2010 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by freebo (Post 8697094)
All true, however I've been using the native skype client on my S60 and the call quality was horrible at times, probably down to CPU speed so maybe not a problem on the iPhone (depending on the model). When I used the same 3G connection on my Macbook with a headset quality was 100% better, so not a badwidth issue.

The mifi is a useful little unit and certainly more flexible than tethering.

There is or was an app to do the same as Mifi for Series 60 phones with built in Wifi in that you can use your phone as hot spot.

The 3 skype for S60 phones implementation is pretty good one as it uses a voice connection back to 3's servers (as opposed to the native app.)

silver Jul 12th 2010 7:21 pm

Re: SKYPE
 

Originally Posted by freebo (Post 8695653)
I have the Virgin mifi one and second that, its great! Used it as our personal broadband until we got our home phone sorted out. $150 which includes 5Gb of data (a lot) but only for the first month (still I managed to use it up but it took some effort). I used it for skype and got good call quality. Got it from Dick Smith, Link

Another option is a Pennytel SIMM straight into his mobile, seems to be 43c per min to call the UK (landlines and mobiles), so quite a bit more than skype but maybe an easy option http://www.pennytel.com.au/Mobile-Ph...all-Rates.aspx

If you look into Pennysim in more detail you can call back to a UK landline for 8c per call. You need to set up the smart dial numbers, the calls to the smart dial numbers are free from your mobile and then the call is charged at your pennytel plan rate.

freebo Jul 12th 2010 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by silver (Post 8697885)
If you look into Pennysim in more detail you can call back to a UK landline for 8c per call. You need to set up the smart dial numbers, the calls to the smart dial numbers are free from your mobile and then the call is charged at your pennytel plan rate.

Funnily enough I just discovered that, I'm using Pennytel via my VOIP router and some UK DID's routed back through them to my home phone, just found the smart dial option for mobiles too. Do you by any chance know anyone who does free Ausralian DID's?

freebo Jul 12th 2010 7:55 pm

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Originally Posted by silver (Post 8697876)
There is or was an app to do the same as Mifi for Series 60 phones with built in Wifi in that you can use your phone as hot spot.

The 3 skype for S60 phones implementation is pretty good one as it uses a voice connection back to 3's servers (as opposed to the native app.)

Yes, its called Joikuspot,http://www.joikushop.com/ but kills the battery and I didn't find it worked that well.

Skype on the S60 for me anyway suffered if the 3G signal was anything less than superb (was OK most of the time in Sydney CBD but awful in the burbs), really nasty digital artifacts and often unusable, that was the native skype client on my old N95, not on 3 but one of the other telco's.

silver Jul 12th 2010 8:39 pm

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Originally Posted by freebo (Post 8697926)
Yes, its called Joikuspot,http://www.joikushop.com/ but kills the battery and I didn't find it worked that well.

Skype on the S60 for me anyway suffered if the 3G signal was anything less than superb (was OK most of the time in Sydney CBD but awful in the burbs), really nasty digital artifacts and often unusable, that was the native skype client on my old N95, not on 3 but one of the other telco's.

That's really the weakness the 3 skype implementation works around (the limitation is you have to be on 3 to use it).

S60 has an in built SIP client that you can use on Wifi or 3G, I used it quite successfully with an E65 and a number of SIP providers over 3G just make sure you get you codec setup properly.

I have never found free Australian DID's but you can use 03 8683 5800 or 02 8282 6234 and then people can dial your account number as an extension (on Pennytel that is).


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