Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Oct 10th 2011, 7:53 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Fantastic post PP
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Oct 10th 2011, 7:56 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by NedKelly
I hear Gillard called the boy and spoke with him today. Obviously trying to outdo Rudd.
Oct 10th 2011, 8:19 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
Fantastic post PP
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Luckily I have their understansing and forgiveness and I have an excellent relationship with them today.
I dont blame THEM for what I did... And I've tried my hardest to make them understand that THEY were not to blame ..... They did their best... It was MY mistakes... Facilitated by others in positions of trust...
Luckily most of us come out the other side better people for it... Lets hope this family does too...
Now, hows about Lizzie dropping in on her way past to offer the kid some encouragement... Now THAT would have an effect....
Oct 10th 2011, 10:00 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by NedKelly
I hear Gillard called the boy and spoke with him today.
Oct 10th 2011, 10:07 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
Fantastic post PP
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Its always easy to judge other parents
If we did get an instruction book when they were born it would be in the bin by the we got home from the hospital
I wonder how many people on here didnt disapoint their parents at some point?
When i was 15 i did something that disapointed my mother
Its was something silly
But even mow my gut churns at the thought of it
Even at 15 i didmt realise how much of a little shit i was
I hope this kid wakes up and learns from this
Originally Posted by cresta57
When your desperate even a Ginger friend is better than no friends
Oct 10th 2011, 10:50 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
so what was it then
Oct 10th 2011, 11:57 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by Seasider
None of us knows what really happened in Kuta, and the newspapers are all putting their own special slant on things.
However I refuse to accept that a 14 year-old is too young to understand the risks of taking drugs in Asia, or anywhere. His parents should certainly understand them, there's been enough press about all the Aussies stuck in Kerobokan, and dealers are all over Kuta so IMHO they should have discussed this with him. (I'm also quite intrigued these "children" were going for massages. How many young teenage boys do that for fun? Unless they're expecting a happy ending.)
All this talk of Bali being barbaric, a third-world country - but one we're happy to go to on holiday.
Indonesia has a different culture, different rules. You might not like them, you might not agree with them, but if you go there you should know them and you should obey them. I don't agree with all the laws in Singapore, I don't condone the death penalty, but I went there knowing how it was, and that in their country I would behave how they expected me to or I would leave. I have acquaintances that have fallen foul of drug laws in Singapore and all I can say is, they're ****ing stupid.
Should he be in an adult prison? No, ideally not, but I think I read that Bali doesn't have a separate system for juveniles. You just can't think of this from your own perspective - it's NOT a western country.
I hope he's sent home soon. He's costing us all a fortune and the country yet more embarrassment at how stupid and arrogant some of its citizens can be in a foreign country where their own rules mean jack shit.
However I refuse to accept that a 14 year-old is too young to understand the risks of taking drugs in Asia, or anywhere. His parents should certainly understand them, there's been enough press about all the Aussies stuck in Kerobokan, and dealers are all over Kuta so IMHO they should have discussed this with him. (I'm also quite intrigued these "children" were going for massages. How many young teenage boys do that for fun? Unless they're expecting a happy ending.)
All this talk of Bali being barbaric, a third-world country - but one we're happy to go to on holiday.
Indonesia has a different culture, different rules. You might not like them, you might not agree with them, but if you go there you should know them and you should obey them. I don't agree with all the laws in Singapore, I don't condone the death penalty, but I went there knowing how it was, and that in their country I would behave how they expected me to or I would leave. I have acquaintances that have fallen foul of drug laws in Singapore and all I can say is, they're ****ing stupid.
Should he be in an adult prison? No, ideally not, but I think I read that Bali doesn't have a separate system for juveniles. You just can't think of this from your own perspective - it's NOT a western country.
I hope he's sent home soon. He's costing us all a fortune and the country yet more embarrassment at how stupid and arrogant some of its citizens can be in a foreign country where their own rules mean jack shit.
The kid does not deserve to go to an adult prison in Bali, but he and his family should also respect the laws of the place they are in. What would happen to a 14 year-old Balinese arrested with drugs? Would the entire international scene be up in arms about it? Probably not. Just because the kid is from a western country, suddenly the Balinese are barbaric people whose laws don't apply to us?
Not sure I agree with the "it's not his fault, he's Australian, let him go brigade" on this one, even though it would seem disproportionate to send him to an adult prison.I sure wouldn't like to be the Indonesian ambassador to Australia right now or the Australian ambassador in Indonesia. Bloody nightmare for the diplomats... If they let him go, does that mean that all the other convicted Australians arrested for possession in countries where it carries a prison sentence should be acquitted and sent home with KRudd too?
ETA: the above is a moot point anyway as this has just hit the wires and Indonesia seems to have found a way out of the mess.
We do not know the full story, and probably never will. But why is it that people are so quick to jump up the throat of the many migrants who they perceive as not wanting/trying to fit in here or in the UK or any other westernised country, yet these same people have complete disregard for the laws of whatever country they are visiting?
The double standards have always puzzled me...I have lived in other countries besides France, the UK and Australia. I never expected to be treated differently to those countries' citizens if I broke THEIR law. Just like I don't expect foreigners in my country to be treated differently to me if they broke the laws of my country.
Oct 10th 2011, 5:30 pm
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
i knew you would ask. its nothing really. well not to anyone else, but it makes me wake up at night in a sweat every now and then
(need any councelling
)
Oct 10th 2011, 10:21 pm
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
so what was it
(need any councelling)
(need any councelling
)its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
Oct 10th 2011, 11:16 pm
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
lmao. i might.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
Oct 11th 2011, 1:14 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
lmao. i might.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
and I am sure your mother never gave it another thought! Thats the beauty about women we always look on the bright side
Oct 11th 2011, 1:38 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by MiekeNL
That brought a tear to my eye Soapy and I am sure your mother never gave it another thought! Thats the beauty about women we always look on the bright side
and I am sure your mother never gave it another thought! Thats the beauty about women we always look on the bright side
Oct 11th 2011, 2:09 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by soapy©
lmao. i might.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
its daft really
as i said my mother had ten kids
somehow both my parents managed to make us all feel loved and didnt favour anyone more than the other, and we felt that too
at christmas and birthdays they managed to make sure we all got great things
dad worked three jobs and mum worked 2
she worked as a furrier for her brother during the day, then as a cook for a local hotel at night, then would sit to all hours in the morning making fur coats for people who could afford them. she didnt even have one herself.
at christmas mum and dad would go without to make sure we all had something
mums only thing was that her boss at the hotel she worked in gave her a voucher to spend on herself each year.
you know where this is going dont ya lol
at 15 skateboards came out, remember they plastic things?
i wanted one and woke up on christmas day to see one all wrapped up for me. i was the happiest guy alive
ran out the door and shouted up to my pals, who all got boards that year
when the came out they all had helmets and padding and i didnt
the next day i started on her, whinging and moaning that i looked like the odd one out.
mum could never have had that so she took her voucher and spent it on a helmet and kneepads that i wore about twice
i have made it up to her a thousand times, but it still gets to me.
how could i have been such a selfish little shite?
it would never have bothered me had it been dad, but mum never ever bought herself anything. if i could go back in time i would kick the shit out of myself.
told you it was nothing really
but i bet my mother was really disappointed in me that day and wondered where she went wrong having a son who only thought about himself.
Oct 11th 2011, 2:13 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Even when we have a 'soapy' as a child.
yes moneypenny, and I would much rather have a child with attitude then some namby pandy holier than thou little runt
Oct 11th 2011, 3:23 am
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Re: Schoolboy [14] Arrested in Bali Drug Bust
Originally Posted by MiekeNL
yes moneypenny, and I would much rather have a child with attitude then some namby pandy holier than thou little runtand didnt I get lucky? I have 4 of the little buggers
