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Old Aug 26th 2012, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Much as I dislike her, I dislike TA more so I'm afraid she needs to stay in place until TA is removed.
Politics has always been a problem like that for me. It's like I've been told I have the choice of voting for hitler, stalin or pol pot, which in reality is no choice at all.
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Originally Posted by furbacchione
Politics has always been a problem like that for me. It's like I've been told I have the choice of voting for hitler, stalin or pol pot, which in reality is no choice at all.
Indeed.
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we live in a politically misogynist country. therefore, for the sake of national unity, she must go.

(besides the fact she disapproves of gay marriage )
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Even lightweight daytime TV hosts can rip TA apart in interviews these days.
The guy is falling apart. SURELY we cant hand this intellectual lightweight the 'keys to the cupboard'?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9uWQf_h9AE

and heres the now famous Leigh Sales interview where TA was thoroughly outplayed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhbg80E2JE


Note the direct contradiction over whether or not he read the statement about Olympic. This means he MUST have lied in one of these interviews. How about we start calling him a nice juvenile 'Tony LIARbott'? (ok that doesnt quite scan - but you get the idea)

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Originally Posted by DadAgain
Even lightweight daytime TV hosts can rip TA apart in interviews these days.
The guy is falling apart. SURELY we cant hand this intellectual lightweight the 'keys to the cupboard'?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9uWQf_h9AE

and heres the now famous Leigh Sales interview where TA was thoroughly outplayed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhbg80E2JE


Note the direct contradiction over whether or not he read the statement about Olympic. This means he MUST have lied in one of these interviews. How about we start calling him a nice juvenile 'Tony LIARbott'? (ok that doesnt quite scan - but you get the idea)
You almost find yourself hiding your face in your hands when he's doing these interviews. It's just frightening.
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Old Nov 29th 2012, 5:52 am
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Just to bump this ..

Originally Posted by Zen10
Tax flight is nonsense. Hardly anyone actually does it but what happens is the press get hold of a few high-profile idiots and blow it up as evidence. The truth that the rich aren't paying any tax at the moment anyway so it's not the increase that frightens them but the mere suggestion that they should pay any at all and that government might start getting serious about collecting it and shutting loopholes.
Two-thirds of millionaires left Britain to avoid 50p tax rate

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-tax-rate.html
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Originally Posted by Bibbs
Just to bump this ..

Two-thirds of millionaires left Britain to avoid 50p tax rate

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-tax-rate.html
In the 2009-10 tax year, more than 16,000 people declared an annual income of more than £1 million to HM Revenue and Customs. This number fell to just 6,000 after Gordon Brown introduced the new 50p top rate of income tax shortly before the last general election
Or in other words, 10,000 millionaires used accountants to hide their income in other ways, so as to avoid looking like they were earning as much.

Somehow I think that is MUCH more likely than that they actually upped sticks. Its quite easy to do, with lots of tricks you can pull.
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Within a reasonably democratic system, if redistribution of wealth were to occur, i.e. the whole pot was divided equally amongst the population, within ten years the money would be right back where it started.

As to Julia, does the recent comedic debate in parliament about a possible wrong-doing spell the end for her?
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As to Julia, does the recent comedic debate in parliament about a possible wrong-doing spell the end for her?
Nope.

She quite cleverly gave abbott enough rope to hang himself. He made loads of implicit accusations, but when given the 15mins of open time to justify them and make it stick, couldn't do so. Basically he was running off a newspaper story (most of which got retracted during the day).

It was a risky gambit of Gillards - but one she pulled off masterly.

If anything, it asks the question if abbott can survive. Nobody in his own party seems to like him, but they'll put up with him if he can land blows and increase their vote. If he looks like a lame duck on that, he's very vulnerable.
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It was a risky gambit of Gillards - but one she pulled off masterly.
She did. People are tired and bored of hearing about this story. I think most people switched off to it a while back but the opposition has continued to waste time on it. Yet again, Tony was made to look silly in parliament. The only win the opposition got was getting a Labor MP to call Julie Bishop a bimbo which doesn't sit well with Gillard's sexism thing.
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Tony was made to look silly in parliament.
Trouble is, it's way too easy to do.
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Trouble is, it's way too easy to do.
In parliament, at the beach, milking a cow...he looks silly everywhere!
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Trouble is, it's way too easy to do.
Though, she may end up hanging herself if she keeps repeat the sexist card. It's all too easy to continually pull that when you are a woman in power.
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It looks very like to me that John McTernan, the spin doctor they bought in from the UK has got the measure the abbott and the libs.

I've long been a critic of the political nouse of the average australian politician - from all parties. Seems like they were playing in kiddie debates rather than politics. However, with the 'sexist pig' tirade, and this little 'put up or shut up' ruse, it looks like someone has got to grip with things - and evidence would point towards it being the ex-nuLabour spin doctor.

If I'm right then abbott will need to take christmas off to come up with some real policies - since the sh*t-stirring he's been doing up till now is unlikely to fly on the run up to the election. If John McTernan has a toolbox of approaches worked out to deal with expected abbott attacks - he will need to change direction, fast.
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Though, she may end up hanging herself if she keeps repeat the sexist card. It's all too easy to continually pull that when you are a woman in power.
It should be outlawed for anyone to make such claims in parliament as it is a sitraction from actual government business. If they are so offended by comments made by someone else, threaten legal action. Right now, Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard both have cases for defamation of character.
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