Property Markets
#16
Re: Property Markets
Pretty much the case, I'm afraid as above. Banks will push for more government support. For example the lowering of tax as well as what has already happened get them on board in a scare campaign around ALP's NG policy. It'll be back to business in an attempt the arrest the necessary correction and push the problem to a future date.
Lending for housing is money for jam for the banks. A very poor use of resources, of course, which would be better used in more productive ways to grow the economy.
Lending for housing is money for jam for the banks. A very poor use of resources, of course, which would be better used in more productive ways to grow the economy.
Hope this helps
Last edited by Amazulu; Feb 5th 2019 at 6:26 am.
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Re: Property Markets
We live in a society and country that values home ownership - it's part of our Anglo-Celtic heritage - therefore people want to buy and own property. Other countries, like Germany, take a different view on this - which just goes to show that even a great country like that can have backward standpoints on certain issues (along with their immigration and pension policies). In light of this, our banks are geared towards lending on residential property - but this does not prevent them from lending and investing in other areas. If this is profitable for them then I'm sure they'll do it. The market will decide
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
As for Germany, still not quite there, Germany being only some six places below Australia. It just that countries like Germany do offer choice with renting being perfectly respectable and protections provided.
AS for immigration, it is Australia that has the fastest population growth in the western world along with USA. Mostly due to immigration. Germany, on the other hand, is one of the oldest populations in the world.
As for pensions, German pensioners miles in front of most Australian pensioners, where one in three live in poverty.
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Only thing useless about the Royal Commission was that no individuals have been called out and no criminal proceedings being undertaken. Nothing about regulating the regulators , just giving them more power to continue what they have been doing nothing. Just how much will the thieving banks pay back of the billions stolen from customers.
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I'll give you some real help to save you floundering. For starters while banks and corrupt financial industry certainly do attempt to 'fob off' houses in Australia, more to do with the laziness of the banks. As for being an Anglo Saxon cultural thing, well not quite. Australia comes in at 39th in home ownership, which is below Portugal and India and socialist Cuba and Romania.
As for Germany, still not quite there, Germany being only some six places below Australia. It just that countries like Germany do offer choice with renting being perfectly respectable and protections provided.
AS for immigration, it is Australia that has the fastest population growth in the western world along with USA. Mostly due to immigration. Germany, on the other hand, is one of the oldest populations in the world.
As for pensions, German pensioners miles in front of most Australian pensioners, where one in three live in poverty.
Always helps to have the facts
As for Germany, still not quite there, Germany being only some six places below Australia. It just that countries like Germany do offer choice with renting being perfectly respectable and protections provided.
AS for immigration, it is Australia that has the fastest population growth in the western world along with USA. Mostly due to immigration. Germany, on the other hand, is one of the oldest populations in the world.
As for pensions, German pensioners miles in front of most Australian pensioners, where one in three live in poverty.
Always helps to have the facts
Renting has some wonderful advantages. You often live in an area of your choice, it aids mobility, you don't pay for stuff when things go wrong, and thanks to negative gearing, those who have no interest in property investment pay your subsidies on rent.
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Renting is ok. I am a big fan. Right at this point I own but may not do that forever.
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Re: Property Markets
10 to 15 year property boom
20 year life of Aussie built homes
Just saying land = asset
Build is depreciating liability
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Re: Property Markets
My Aussie built house is 110 years old and going strong. Not sure where you get those facts from.
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Only thing useless about the Royal Commission was that no individuals have been called out and no criminal proceedings being undertaken. Nothing about regulating the regulators , just giving them more power to continue what they have been doing nothing. Just how much will the thieving banks pay back of the billions stolen from customers.
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Australia's home ownership is 15% higher than Germany's and higher than France the UK and the US, but its neither here nor there.
Renting has some wonderful advantages. You often live in an area of your choice, it aids mobility, you don't pay for stuff when things go wrong, and thanks to negative gearing, those who have no interest in property investment pay your subsidies on rent.
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Renting is ok. I am a big fan. Right at this point I own but may not do that forever.
Renting has some wonderful advantages. You often live in an area of your choice, it aids mobility, you don't pay for stuff when things go wrong, and thanks to negative gearing, those who have no interest in property investment pay your subsidies on rent.
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Renting is ok. I am a big fan. Right at this point I own but may not do that forever.
I certainly don't beat myself up about it.(unlike some who delve into where they probably really shouldn't)
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Re: Property Markets
I know a very nice apartment up for grabs in a few months' time, Beoz - currently undergoing some major renovations and my husband has gone and got a job in the US
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ALP needed to at least look to put into place regulations that will make banks think twice before repeating the scandal clearly out there for a considerable time, but uncovered during the Royal Commission.
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Probably wishful thinking hoping the Coalition will do much to curtail the thieving, crooked, corrupt banking system that is Australia. I expect nothing like the 7 billion dollars (I believe) will ever be paid back. Banks will push for lower interest rates from RBA, while not passing it on to customers, or even raising it.
ALP needed to at least look to put into place regulations that will make banks think twice before repeating the scandal clearly out there for a considerable time, but uncovered during the Royal Commission.
ALP needed to at least look to put into place regulations that will make banks think twice before repeating the scandal clearly out there for a considerable time, but uncovered during the Royal Commission.
Yep, interest rates about to rise now that the RC has taken brokers out of the picture. No more competition for interest rates. Banks can do as they please. Thankfully the government have said "we will put that one under review"
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You think ripping off customers is reserved for just banks? Think again.
Yep, interest rates about to rise now that the RC has taken brokers out of the picture. No more competition for interest rates. Banks can do as they please. Thankfully the government have said "we will put that one under review"
Yep, interest rates about to rise now that the RC has taken brokers out of the picture. No more competition for interest rates. Banks can do as they please. Thankfully the government have said "we will put that one under review"
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Financial area as a whole. The banning of commissions essential and replaced by flat rates. Brokers largely responsible for a lot of the mess. Government does have leverage over banks, if they choose to use it. Interest rates should rise. They should have done long ago, before the scenario of house depreciation devastating the economy became all too real. Remember we are in the position we find ourselves in, due to the greed and ineptness of banksters and assorted travellers that came close to bringing down the economic system in 2008.Time to get real and not allow banks to dictate politics. Best chance for some reform is ALP, although of course will not go far enough to tame the beast.
Is that really what you want?