Paris attacks/explosions
Nov 15th 2015, 1:10 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Serious question rajji boy, what's your solution to this shit? My solution is to seal the borders right now, immediately detain all known extremists and to start killing more assholes in Syria and Iraq (don't know why you want to attack Iran?). So what's your solution? Surely you must have one? I'd be interested to know
Nov 15th 2015, 1:12 am
#32
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
You may have noticed that I block amazulu. It follows the last time geert wilders was barking at these shores and amazulu was adamantly defending him - even though it was very obvious that he was a racist. I've never quite worked out if 'zulu does it because he's trolling, or because his SA background means he actually is that racist - but either way, he's not worth the time.
Frankly, amazulu is one of those that needs to assimilate; to understand the racist culture and confrontational mindset that he came from is not something he can import here. He needs to turn that finger around and point it at himself.
See, thing is, I can understand why 'zulu has that cultural bias. You can't visit SA and not see the siege mentality, the 'us and them', and the inherent guilt based dissonance that has to be resolved somehow. But part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia is to get away from that, to put it away, and he can't.
Same thing with religion, and islam in particular. Part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia rather than staying in, say, UAE, is to escape the perversive, destructive, stench of islam and what it does to a society. Religion needs to be like fishing, something you do, as a hobby, not as an all consuming lifestyle. You come here to get away from it; because if you WANT and NEED it to be your entire life, then you are better off in a country where that will be accepted. It's never going to work here, nor should it.
Think of it as Australian culture to be the mean, and multiculturalism to be the standard deviation. You need to make sure as an immigrant you sit within 1 SD of the mean, and assimilate to the degree that that is the case. If you won't or can't, they you aren't going to be an 'Australian', and it'll be a struggle for you every day.
That's how societies work.
Frankly, amazulu is one of those that needs to assimilate; to understand the racist culture and confrontational mindset that he came from is not something he can import here. He needs to turn that finger around and point it at himself.
See, thing is, I can understand why 'zulu has that cultural bias. You can't visit SA and not see the siege mentality, the 'us and them', and the inherent guilt based dissonance that has to be resolved somehow. But part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia is to get away from that, to put it away, and he can't.
Same thing with religion, and islam in particular. Part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia rather than staying in, say, UAE, is to escape the perversive, destructive, stench of islam and what it does to a society. Religion needs to be like fishing, something you do, as a hobby, not as an all consuming lifestyle. You come here to get away from it; because if you WANT and NEED it to be your entire life, then you are better off in a country where that will be accepted. It's never going to work here, nor should it.
Think of it as Australian culture to be the mean, and multiculturalism to be the standard deviation. You need to make sure as an immigrant you sit within 1 SD of the mean, and assimilate to the degree that that is the case. If you won't or can't, they you aren't going to be an 'Australian', and it'll be a struggle for you every day.
That's how societies work.
Actually despite what I may have said earlier (directed at the neo nutters) I have (generally speaking) no problem in Australia having one dominant culture and assimilation goal towards it (for togetherness which is crucial) as long as its heavily influenced by all the good that other cultures bring.
You're kinda spoiling my session here on BE...I only came on to have a go at Zulu's views :-).
Over and Out
Nov 15th 2015, 1:15 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Glad I can be of assistance
I actually feel a bit sorry for you. So consumed by hatred, intolerance and loathing. I've never understood that way of thinking - pretty sad really. Just be careful as that shit will eat you up
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Nov 15th 2015, 1:28 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
I get the feeling i'd happily assimilate with the likes of you and most normal people.. NOT Zulu as he has form as is proud of his past "killing of Blacks" days.... I have a problem with right wing nutters (with form going back decades) going...kill kill kill 'assimilate of bugger off' X3 geert is a good decent guy x 3 etc. Zulu is literally using BE to spread division. If that's the benchmark being set, then you can forget about assimilation and people living in harmony.... who do you really believe is wanting to live in a successful, 'multicultural', viable, non ignorant, pleasant society ...me or zulu??
Fit in of f**k off - an interesting statement
I don't know or care what your background is but judging by your username, I reckon that you're British Indian? Indians have, by and large, integrated well into the west and are now a major asset to our culture and way of life. I reckon you've assimilated and integrated pretty well too - you've certainly taken the champagne socialist, leftie, PC viewpoint that so hurts our society (that's democracy for you!), but that's cool. Do whatever floats your boat. But why then don't you want large swathes of the muslim population to integrate and assimilate? To do the very thing that you've done? Until they do integrate, things like Paris are going to get worse - and life will get worse for them
Do try and open your mind. Your narrow, bigoted point of view muddles your thinking and makes you look foolish - which I'm sure you're not
Nov 15th 2015, 1:43 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
I get the feeling i'd happily assimilate with the likes of you and most normal people.. NOT Zulu as he has form as is proud of his past "killing of Blacks" days.... I have a problem with right wing nutters (with form going back decades) going...kill kill kill 'assimilate of bugger off' X3 geert is a good decent guy x 3 etc. Zulu is literally using BE to spread division. If that's the benchmark being set, then you can forget about assimilation and people living in harmony.... who do you really believe is wanting to live in a successful, 'multicultural', viable, non ignorant, pleasant society ...me or zulu??
I think you need to read what is written, rather than reading it the way you want to read it.
Now over to you. There's a couple of questions you keep avoiding.
What would your solution be?
OR
You don't care for a solution and you support what happened in Paris?
""WE" have increased in numbers and influence so they can bleat all they want but it will not stop 'us'."
Nov 15th 2015, 1:53 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Not sure about the pitchfork - pretty useless as a weapon IMO. Now a Glock 18, that would be sweeeeet
Serious question rajji boy, what's your solution to this shit? My solution is to seal the borders right now, immediately detain all known extremists and to start killing more assholes in Syria and Iraq (don't know why you want to attack Iran?). So what's your solution? Surely you must have one? I'd be interested to know
Serious question rajji boy, what's your solution to this shit? My solution is to seal the borders right now, immediately detain all known extremists and to start killing more assholes in Syria and Iraq (don't know why you want to attack Iran?). So what's your solution? Surely you must have one? I'd be interested to know
Stop unconditional support for Saudi, Qatar and others
Ironically right wing nutters cause the problem (by going into iraq for example) and left wingers are asked to come up with ideas to fix it!
To tell you the truth, the above is just a scatter gun of thoughts and I dont have any solutions ...I've given up as right wing tossers have been calling the shots for nearly 20 years plus and there is no end in sight to the madness of kill kill kill (your side won and control everything)!
Today I am French.
Nov 15th 2015, 2:19 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
I'm chilled but admit I've been after you on overdrive since late thurs...been nearly 100% bed ridden for three days have have finished my work, seen enough movies and watched enough footie (and been on more friendly social media with friends). Basically i'm bored.... will be mended by tomorrow morning so i'll stop thinking about you then ...and will think about the missus a lot more LOL
Nov 15th 2015, 2:21 am
#42
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
One for the Tony haters. 28 Oct 2015.
“We are rediscovering the hard way that justice tempered by mercy is an exacting ideal, as too much mercy for some necessarily undermines justice for all.”
Abbott said: “No country or continent can open its borders to all comers without fundamentally weakening itself. This is the risk that the countries of Europe now run through misguided altruism.”
He also urged European governments to be vigilant with home-grown terrorism.
“Of course you can’t arrest your way to social harmony but home grown terrorism does need a strong response,” Abbott said.
“Of course the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t support terrorism but many still think that death should be the punishment for apostasy”.
“We are rediscovering the hard way that justice tempered by mercy is an exacting ideal, as too much mercy for some necessarily undermines justice for all.”
Abbott said: “No country or continent can open its borders to all comers without fundamentally weakening itself. This is the risk that the countries of Europe now run through misguided altruism.”
He also urged European governments to be vigilant with home-grown terrorism.
“Of course you can’t arrest your way to social harmony but home grown terrorism does need a strong response,” Abbott said.
“Of course the overwhelming majority of Muslims don’t support terrorism but many still think that death should be the punishment for apostasy”.
Nov 15th 2015, 3:10 am
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Nov 15th 2015, 3:16 am
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Irrelevant to this thread anyway
When you are more informed on the conflict in Namibia and Angola (ie you know absolutely nothing at the moment despite all your mouthing off) we can maybe discuss but until then, no chance. Not really a good thing to debate on BE anyway
