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kiwi_child Jun 22nd 2007 5:04 am

OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 
Reported today: Gay and Lesbian couples are financially discriminated against via 58 Federal government laws. These are in relation to superannuation, welfare payments and other financial matters. This results in significant disadvantage compared with their heterosexual counterparts.

These laws apply to defacto gay couples as gay marriage and civil unions/partnerships are not legal/recognised in Australia.

The federal government apparently says it will 'look into it' (election year timing?)

Amazulu Jun 22nd 2007 5:12 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child (Post 4950494)
Reported today: Gay and Lesbian couples are financially discriminated against via 58 Federal government laws. These are in relation to superannuation, welfare payments and other financial matters. This results in significant disadvantage compared with their heterosexual counterparts.

These laws apply to defacto gay couples as gay marriage and civil unions/partnerships are not legal/recognised in Australia.

The federal government apparently says it will 'look into it' (election year timing?)

Shit happens.

kiwi_child Jun 22nd 2007 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 4950514)
Shit happens.

:rolleyes: I see you didn't take your liver salts today then

Vash the Stampede Jun 22nd 2007 5:42 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child (Post 4950494)
Reported today: Gay and Lesbian couples are financially discriminated against via 58 Federal government laws. These are in relation to superannuation, welfare payments and other financial matters. This results in significant disadvantage compared with their heterosexual counterparts.

These laws apply to defacto gay couples as gay marriage and civil unions/partnerships are not legal/recognised in Australia.

The federal government apparently says it will 'look into it' (election year timing?)

"Look into it" means "Sod the election year, the gays and lesbians can get stuffed. We've got more important things to do".

Which is true.

bcworld Jun 22nd 2007 5:49 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 
Agreed. Last year I submitted a joint tax return with my partner not realising that the ATO does not recognise our 6 yr relationship as defacto - only m/f relationships are considered as such. Any old m/f couple could submit a joint tax return with very little evidence of any kind of genuine and ongoing relationship.

The net result for me was paying about $800 extra tax - if that's not discriminatory I don't know what is.

I'd have to say though that in immigration law Australia is quite liberal in this matter although it seems to be the only area of Australian legislation that is.

renth Jun 22nd 2007 6:11 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 
I think the government should leave Les Couples and his lovely wife Gay alone.

Amazulu Jun 22nd 2007 6:19 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 4950639)
I think the government should leave Les Couples and his lovely wife Gay alone.

:D The PC brigade are going to be after you for this!

DrWho Jun 22nd 2007 6:22 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 4950661)
:D The PC brigade are going to be after you for this!

:lol: And Vash for suggesting that there could possibly be something more important than equal rights for the gay community...!

kiwi_child Jun 22nd 2007 6:29 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 4950639)
I think the government should leave Les Couples and his lovely wife Gay alone.

:lol:

bcworld Jun 22nd 2007 6:31 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by rodders39 (Post 4950664)
:lol: And Vash for suggesting that there could possibly be something more important than equal rights for the gay community...!

I dont disagree with that opinion but at the same time I can't see what would be so amusing about it that would make you LOL????

I'm not some kind of gay rights activist, marching for the right to get married or adopt kids, neither of which I have any interest in....but how difficult is it to say to the ATO that maybe its about time they updated their definition of what a defacto relationship is in line with other federal laws?

Arguably I'm less of a drain on society than many others and I have no objection to paying the same taxes as everyone else but why should i pay more??

renth Jun 22nd 2007 6:31 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 4950677)
I am sure this is of great concern to all the families who frequent BE.

Why don't you post it in the MBTTUK forum so they can all agree on another reason why Oz is a bad place because of the way it treats Lessies & Homos?

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kiwi_child Jun 22nd 2007 6:33 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 4950589)
Agreed. Last year I submitted a joint tax return with my partner not realising that the ATO does not recognise our 6 yr relationship as defacto - only m/f relationships are considered as such. Any old m/f couple could submit a joint tax return with very little evidence of any kind of genuine and ongoing relationship.

The net result for me was paying about $800 extra tax - if that's not discriminatory I don't know what is.

I'd have to say though that in immigration law Australia is quite liberal in this matter although it seems to be the only area of Australian legislation that is.

I think it's important that gay and lesbian people who are contemplating moving to OZ are aware of these matters. Australia should try and get into the 21st century and follow the lead of the UK in relation to gay, les and trans equality.

Nu-Shooz Jun 22nd 2007 6:33 am

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Good job this isn't San Fransico;)

renth Jun 22nd 2007 6:34 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child (Post 4950692)
I think it's important that gay and lesbian people who are contemplating moving to OZ are aware of these matters. Australia should try and get into the 21st century and follow the lead of the UK in relation to gay, les and trans equality.

The govt do recognise same sex relationships when it comes to immigration though.

kiwi_child Jun 22nd 2007 6:37 am

Re: OZ Gov Financial Discrimination of Gay & Les Couples
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 4950571)
"Look into it" means "Sod the election year, the gays and lesbians can get stuffed. We've got more important things to do".

Which is true.

These matters should have been sorted yonks ago. It's disgraceful that this sort of discrimination is still legal!. But unlikely under a Liberal federal govt due to their conservative "family values" agenda that actively promotes heterosexual marriage while attempting to discourage other sexual orientations and identities.


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