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bcworld Dec 18th 2010 8:15 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9048851)
Although I didn't drive in the UK I was in the passenger seat on many an ocassion and remember remarking to my sister how polite the drivers were over there............mind you I live in Sydney and at the time my sister lived in a small town..........maybe that's the difference???

I don't think so.

I now people who live in the Redlands (Bayside Brisbane) and were worried about picking up a hire car in London. Their comment afterwards was that they needn't have worried as they couldn't believe how courteous drivers in London were in comparison.

It's a strange phenomenon the Australian driving aggresion, I'm not sure where it comes from and why but to my mind it's definitely there...and has been said, people who are otherwise nice as pie have a different side when they get behind the wheel. :confused:

Driving along busy Hoddle St in Melbourne last night we were stuck behind a car with its left indicator on, for ages, because anyone seeing the indicator in the target lane immediately accelerated to close the gap to prevent the car getting in. This is what you see all the time.

BadgeIsBack Dec 18th 2010 8:31 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 9048861)
I used to drive a lot in London, and when driving out in the small country towns, I recall thinking the same about how polite the drivers were.

When I first arrived in Sydney, in 1986, I considered it somewhere between the two. Sydney has however become more busy, whilst London probably hasn't.


Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9048864)
I don't think so.

I now people who live in the Redlands (Bayside Brisbane) and were worried about picking up a hire car in London. Their comment afterwards was that they needn't have worried as they couldn't believe how courteous drivers in London were in comparison.

It's a strange phenomenon the Australian driving aggresion, I'm not sure where it comes from and why but to my mind it's definitely there...and has been said, people who are otherwise nice as pie have a different side when they get behind the wheel. :confused:

Driving along busy Hoddle St in Melbourne last night we were stuck behind a car with its left indicator on, for ages, because anyone seeing the indicator in the target lane immediately accelerated to close the gap to prevent the car getting in. This is what you see all the time.

I think it happens because people want to get where they want to get. It happens at times. Were you driving at a fairly busy time? But in general rural areas are better than cities. And people forget - Australian cities are car cities, really. It's a car culture.


Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9048597)
I find they tend to stick to the road rules regarding right of way here, hence they may not let you out. If they're on that road and you're waiting to enter it, then they have right of way and probably don't even think about it.

I didn't notice any difference when I went back to the UK though :confused: Only very few let me in over there as well.

Road rules hmmm...I'll never forget learning that in parts of Europe that English-learned practises do not apply there - the road rules are the rules - and in this case, they were the reverse anyhow and were not variable based on custom.


Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9048597)
As for car parking spaces Paul, general rule is if you indicate into it then it's yours :D make sure you indicate as soon as you see it :sneaky:

This works quite well, even in Bogan Fountain Gate. It's first come first served, and people tend not to abuse it - applying a bit of common sense (and I daresay even courtesy) even in areas where they could probably get away with pushing it.


Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 9048514)
Sydney Rd, Lygon St, Brunswick St, and Johnston St, wouldn't function at all if people didnt let you in. You can always tell the people that dont come from around here, as they are the ones that dont give way to people, Especially pulling out from car parking spot into a perpetual line of traffic adjacent to Traffic Lights.

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Local knowledge and practise. The situation is clearly not black and white.

bcworld Dec 18th 2010 8:35 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9048882)
I think it happens because people want to get where they want to get.

Not something that is unique to Australia!

Besides, it wouldn't excuse the kind of thing I'm talking about anyway.

BadgeIsBack Dec 18th 2010 8:50 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9048885)
Not something that is unique to Australia!

Besides, it wouldn't excuse the kind of thing I'm talking about anyway.

No - it isn't. It doesn't. Mexico City is far worse. It's the only place where I actually am quite nervous to drive. Really nervous. And it's dangerous too.

Beedubya Dec 19th 2010 12:45 am

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9048864)
I don't think so.

I now people who live in the Redlands (Bayside Brisbane) and were worried about picking up a hire car in London. Their comment afterwards was that they needn't have worried as they couldn't believe how courteous drivers in London were in comparison.

It's a strange phenomenon the Australian driving aggresion, I'm not sure where it comes from and why but to my mind it's definitely there...and has been said, people who are otherwise nice as pie have a different side when they get behind the wheel. :confused:

Driving along busy Hoddle St in Melbourne last night we were stuck behind a car with its left indicator on, for ages, because anyone seeing the indicator in the target lane immediately accelerated to close the gap to prevent the car getting in. This is what you see all the time.

Just try to get into a lane of traffic on Qantas Drive, Sydney with a never ending stream of taxi drivers and courier vans, I swear they are the most surly and discourteous of the bunch, sure they may have deadlines to meet, but 20 - 30 seconds of letting somebody in isn't going to kill them............

paulry Dec 23rd 2010 10:11 am

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 
Food in general has much much more sugar in it. Chocolate, ice cream, etc is quite unpalatable. Cordial needs stacks of water to be added to offset the very sugary flavouring. Even baked beans are very sweet. Wifey informs me that sugar is cheaper here. Dentists must do well. There's not much in the way of sugar free stuff to be found.

Overall the food is good - especially the meat. Thought of developing my own veggy garden to offset their high price, but seeds are very expensive too.

Officer Dibble Dec 23rd 2010 12:29 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9058325)
Food in general has much much more sugar in it. Chocolate, ice cream, etc is quite unpalatable. Cordial needs stacks of water to be added to offset the very sugary flavouring. Even baked beans are very sweet. Wifey informs me that sugar is cheaper here. Dentists must do well. There's not much in the way of sugar free stuff to be found.

Overall the food is good - especially the meat. Thought of developing my own veggy garden to offset their high price, but seeds are very expensive too.

How long have you been here now?

ABCDiamond Dec 23rd 2010 12:36 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9058325)
Chocolate, ice cream, etc is quite unpalatable.

I have to disagree, being quite an Ice Cream and Chocolate eater :lol:

Never actually checked the sugar content, but as I just happen to have a bar here ;) Sugar 57.2gm per 100gms Cadbury Old Jamaica.

The normal Dairy Milk bars are 56.7g per 100g Cadbury UK and 56.2g per 100g Cadbury AU

Pollyana Dec 23rd 2010 3:24 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9058325)
Food in general has much much more sugar in it. Chocolate, ice cream, etc is quite unpalatable. Cordial needs stacks of water to be added to offset the very sugary flavouring. Even baked beans are very sweet. Wifey informs me that sugar is cheaper here. Dentists must do well. There's not much in the way of sugar free stuff to be found.

Overall the food is good - especially the meat. Thought of developing my own veggy garden to offset their high price, but seeds are very expensive too.

I used to prefer the Aussie chocolate but over the yers I've gone back to the UK stuff more and more, not a conscious thing, just a change in personal taste :confused: I agree on the ice cream, don't really like the taste here - I thought I had just gone off ice cream till I was back home last,then again I realised its the taste that I don't like, and back home I was quite happy to eat it.

Merseygirl Dec 23rd 2010 3:39 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9058325)
Food in general has much much more sugar in it. Chocolate, ice cream, etc is quite unpalatable. Cordial needs stacks of water to be added to offset the very sugary flavouring. Even baked beans are very sweet. Wifey informs me that sugar is cheaper here. Dentists must do well. There's not much in the way of sugar free stuff to be found.

Overall the food is good - especially the meat. Thought of developing my own veggy garden to offset their high price, but seeds are very expensive too.

I have found that food here generally has more sugar in it. I find some of the cheaper yoghurts here too sweet to eat - there is more sugar than fruit taste in them.
I have often wondered if it is because Australia is supporting its sugar cane industry in Far North Queensland.

As for driving, I have wondered about why the supposedly laid back Aussies suddenly become aggressive behind the wheel of a car.

Is it because they are a more competitive outgoing nation than the more reserved Brits and see driving as almost a sporting activity to win at all cost. I don't know the answer....but it's just a thought.

Centurion Dec 23rd 2010 3:43 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 9058480)
I have to disagree, being quite an Ice Cream and Chocolate eater :lol:

Same. Tastes the same to me and I consider myself an ice cream abuse victim.

The only piss poor show here is that I can't get Hagan Daz.

On the plus side I now have a Baskin and Robins within walking distance....:o

JackTheLad Dec 23rd 2010 4:13 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 
Ozzies don't back down, that is one trait I've noticed. No matter how glaringly obvious their mistake, it is always someone elses fault or they say they didn't do it.

So if they break a computer system, not their fault (e.g. Queensland Health Payment System).

Build a white elephant De-salination plant (not their fault, you wanted it)

Have enorrmous parties that get out of control (not my fault, it was the others at the party)

No-one ever takes responsibility for their actions here, it is always someone elses fault.

JTL

Officer Dibble Dec 23rd 2010 4:34 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 9058685)
Ozzies don't back down, that is one trait I've noticed. No matter how glaringly obvious their mistake, it is always someone elses fault or they say they didn't do it.

So if they break a computer system, not their fault (e.g. Queensland Health Payment System).

Build a white elephant De-salination plant (not their fault, you wanted it)

Have enorrmous parties that get out of control (not my fault, it was the others at the party)

No-one ever takes responsibility for their actions here, it is always someone elses fault.


JTL



:thumbup::rofl: Now wait for the "Yeah but.... " party to arrive.

Wendy Dec 23rd 2010 4:55 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 9058685)

Build a white elephant De-salination plant (not their fault, you wanted it)


Nothing wrong with the Victorian Desal plant...

I got a nice end of financial year bonus because of the profit my business unit are making on the work there :thumbup::D

ozzieeagle Dec 23rd 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Observations of life in Australia
 

Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 9058685)
Build a white elephant De-salination plant (not their fault, you wanted it)


JTL


I'm absolutely convinced, there will be an even bigger 2nd desal plant being built within the next 20 to 25 years. We definitely need it... one years decent rainful in 14 years doesnt mean the drought has broken properly yet. The Dam levels are still only 55 pct tops.


I for one am more than happy to pay the extra costs on my Water Rates... especially if I dont have to endure the Brown Dusty Garden landscapes we have had to endure over the last 10 years or so every January February and March.

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