JackTheLad

And the fact that you wouldn't kick her out of bed (in a sort of shagging your mother in law wierd sort of way).

Or maybe its just me

Vash the Stampede

Sure, they're here, but nowhere near on the scale of the UK.

Cronulla was a huge shock to Aussies partly because it was so horrible, and partly because such incidents are virtually unheard of. Not only that, but despite a great deal of pushing, shoving and bashing, nobody was actually killed or seriously injured. Nor was there the widespread destruction of public property that you get in the UK.

When compared with the Brixton Riots, the Oldham Riots, the Burnley Riots, the Bradford Riots, the Handsword Riots, the Lozells Riot and various other demonstrations of British public opinion (eg. Tottenham and Toxteth, etc.) Cronulla was little more than a playground brawl.

Agreed.

Vash the Stampede

I think it's just you!

Vash the Stampede

I wouldn't trace back to the Saxons anyway, since they weren't native to Britain.

Well then, that rules out the Saxons immediately.

I'd be interested to know how you're defining "indigenous." Do you mean "born in Australia/UK/wherever"? Or do you mean something else?

Australian Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders are the only groups which qualify for indigenous status in my country.

spalen

Indigenous:A species that occurs naturally in an area; native.

BNP are nothing but a bunch of racist idiots.

There is a very good line in a morrisey song - about wanting to be proud of the union jack but not being able to because of its association with pillocks like these people. I forget what it is.

JackTheLad

If you want to get stupid about it, the Welsh are the REAL BRITONS, the SCOTS own Northern Ireland, and the anglo saxons calling themselves 'british' can piss off back to their saurkraut eating thigh slapping sausage sucking pals back in Germany.

And Pauline Hanson does have a certain something about her...

JTL

spalen

Err.... Mate.....

there are wimmin in the phone book will sort you out with that kind of emotional requirement....

sassenach

i had noticed after my six month spell back in the uk lastyear after re - aquainting my self with old friends who are resonably educated and didnt seem to have a problem with blacks,asians etc seem to be developing a unhealthy hatred for immigrants now and to me what seems to have sparked this off has been the flood of immigrants coming in from eastern bloc and working cheap and now the likes of jamaicans,pakistanis and indians who have by and large live peacefully in the uk are all being lumped in with this new wave of immigrants ,people are pissed off with it and they want the eastern blockers out ,the likes of the albanians are in a lot of cases just plying criminal trades in london with such ferocity that hasnt been seen before and make the likes of the krays almost good enough to look after your children .Tension seems to be rising and i was there in and around handsworth in the ficinity of lozells when a riot started between asians and blacks and one man lost his life all this is largly un reported ,i was brought up in the aston area of birmingham and was there 20 odd years ago in the riots ,i had all black neighbours and they where always good to me and i often was the only white guy in a black club in aston when i was with black mates and never was there a problem .I personaly believe dont stop immigrants into the uk as the uk needs them but its not policed properly and it may well cause tensions with black on asian on white on black .To be honest i was always brought up with janaicans and i loved their laid back lifestyle and they never gave me or my family grief but the new breed of young pakistani's are a real worry for the happness of some of these inner city areas such as handsworth ,toxteth ,lewisham ,moss side .Yes i belive the brit government has to do somthing

Vash the Stampede

Yep, that's right.

She does, but it's not a GOOD thing.

JackTheLad

Yeah, just look under MILF

ElshaUK

This whole debate confuses me

I am in a mixed race relationship - partner is Indian, so I see things a little differently.

England sure is multi-cultural, in my mind more so than parts of Australia (certainly Perth at any rate).

Someone commented that they were happy to move to Australia due to the immigration laws in England, but this sounds odd. Do you mean because Australia is more choosier/stricter about the immigration or because it is stricter on illegal immigrants? So by going to Australia, you are happier because they let less 'foreigners' in????? But by being English, you are a foreigner! Just because we share the same queen doesn't mean it's the same country?!

Not trying to spark a fight - just trying to understand the whole debate going on here. It seems sad that people believe that they are casting a protest vote when voting for these openly racist parties.

Anyway, I don't know enough about immigration laws and policies but this is just how I feel, don't shoot me down for my point of view

ElshaUK

So you'd prefer a Britain with one culture would you? So by leaving and going to Australia, you'll be entering a country with less cultural diversity?

Main Entry: cultural diversity
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: ethnic, gender, racial, and socioeconomic variety in a situation, institution, or group; the coexistence of different ethnic, gender, racial, and socioeconomic groups within one social unit

I looked it up in the dictionary. Seems a shame that we can't all coexist in one group/country. Of course, it means learning about another's culture and that doesn't mean enjoying a curry on a friday night and calling it a 'cultural' experience

possoms

PMSL k for that

sassenach

I think to be honest the brits admire the way australia handles its illegals ie banging them up for long periods of time .Where as briton is letting in any tom dick and harry in now and with the flood of eastern blockers its giving the locals the hump especially when they work for half the money and live ten to a room .I think most ordinary people who are sensible arnt against immigration at all but the floodgates are open in the uk and just about every town has its own enclaves now ,australia only wants the best of the crop from the world that is why it does run quite a stringent immigration policy the brit system is even more stringent againsts those coming from outside the EU but from within its getting flooded and people dont like it as the brits have never been comfortable with being classed with the continentals.I would also advocate that the brits are far more excepting of foreigners than white australians are of newly arrived immigrants especially if black ,theres heaps of rednecks here in WA especially in places like kalgoorlie etc.I guess i seem a bit contradictory in what i have written here its hard for me to explain but i suppose the brits arnt happy with the amount that are coming in one go ,but those that come and intergrate by and large are accepted and regards to the continentals well we have a bit of the problem with the french because their women dont shave under their arms and they eat snails and well the germans thats quite obvious the reason we dont like them [they pinch all the chairs around the pool in spain] and the italians we dont like them because they are suave and generally are cowards ,and the spanish we dont like them becuse they pinch all our women when on holiday ,the dutch are alright because they love porn and we love going to amsterdam and smoking joints ,and the polish we dont like them because they will work for peanuts and are genarally miserable ,we dont like the swiss because they got heaps of dosh and are fence sitters and blow big horns .

sme

i'm totally with you about this, I don't know how to respond to such a comment.
To me the BNP are a bunch of bigotted racist thugs and a protest vote would, at a push be ...........The Green Party