MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Mar 19th 2014, 6:23 am
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Mar 19th 2014, 7:25 am
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Errrm hope I didn't get anyones hopes up too much.... But here's Courtneys "Evidence"
It's a slightly Phallic, but you'd expect that.
It's a slightly Phallic, but you'd expect that.
Mar 19th 2014, 11:35 am
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Yeah, I picked up on this yesterday:
Flight diverted to Diego Garcia
Apparently for quarantine purposes. Initially I dismissed this as random tittle tattle, but now we have this from the Russians:
Russia puzzled over Malaysia Airlines capture by US navy/
Not saying any of this is concrete, but it certainly adds more interest to the story...
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Flight diverted to Diego Garcia
Apparently for quarantine purposes. Initially I dismissed this as random tittle tattle, but now we have this from the Russians:
Russia puzzled over Malaysia Airlines capture by US navy/
Not saying any of this is concrete, but it certainly adds more interest to the story...
S
Mar 19th 2014, 7:59 pm
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Yep, plane down in Queensland and QFES - who now run emergency management - are in there at once, even for a small one. For an airliner we would be involved as coordinators for Transport, CASA, AMSA ( if down in Queensland waters) QPS, and all other agencies like Ambulance as they become necessary. The airline itself has a role to play - caring for relatives, to name just one thing- but they are not trained to search, recover, preserve a site etc. there are State and National plans and protocols and each agency plays its role as required.
I don't have access to the Malaysian plans, nor do I know what goes on behind the scenes there, but I do know how frantic and serious a search like this would be if it happened here, especially during the first few hours before any facts emerge. I also know that however a major incident is dealt with, there will always be critics saying it should have been done faster/diffferent/better. As the time goes on, well its just getting more intriguing by the day, but those first few hours - maybe as long as 48 - I really felt for the individuals in the agencies trying to conduct the search, I would not have liked to be coordinating that one, either personally or professionally.
I don't have access to the Malaysian plans, nor do I know what goes on behind the scenes there, but I do know how frantic and serious a search like this would be if it happened here, especially during the first few hours before any facts emerge. I also know that however a major incident is dealt with, there will always be critics saying it should have been done faster/diffferent/better. As the time goes on, well its just getting more intriguing by the day, but those first few hours - maybe as long as 48 - I really felt for the individuals in the agencies trying to conduct the search, I would not have liked to be coordinating that one, either personally or professionally.
Mar 19th 2014, 11:46 pm
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Aggghhhh !!!!
Sometimes you just want to give reporters a pair of concrete boots and drop them in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Every scummy trick in the hacks' dirty toolbag to sensationalise and obscurate. "Cindy Wockner" - Wot a c....
http://www.news.com.au/world/search-...-1226859680610
Sometimes you just want to give reporters a pair of concrete boots and drop them in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Every scummy trick in the hacks' dirty toolbag to sensationalise and obscurate. "Cindy Wockner" - Wot a c....
http://www.news.com.au/world/search-...-1226859680610
Mar 20th 2014, 12:08 am
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
I pick up a newspaper by choice once a week. I see your point about it not just being IT - but IT supplies the connectivity, I suppose.
This gulf about who wants to know is irrelevant if noone does. And if the stuff that people do know is taken from tabloid sources with little depth of understanding. And these are the things we want to get faster solving - and we have come along way in 50 years.
This gulf about who wants to know is irrelevant if noone does. And if the stuff that people do know is taken from tabloid sources with little depth of understanding. And these are the things we want to get faster solving - and we have come along way in 50 years.
Nowhere is this more apparent than in the worldwide "debate" over climate change. The agenda of disinformation being spread by the coal, oil and gas industry (hundreds of millions of dollars) is very successful. Not only do the hysterical shock jocks like Limbaugh and Jones spread "facts" that they do not comprehend, but blogs are filled with deniers cutting and pasting the same few discredited "facts" ad nauseam.
Anyone who takes just a few minutes to follow the trails, and who Googles the *real* science will realise how the public is being misled. Exactly the same sort of herd ignorance is being shown, as you say, in the MH370 episode.
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Mar 20th 2014, 1:24 am
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Absolutely.
Nowhere is this more apparent than in the worldwide "debate" over climate change. The agenda of disinformation being spread by the coal, oil and gas industry (hundreds of millions of dollars) is very successful. Not only do the hysterical shock jocks like Limbaugh and Jones spread "facts" that they do not comprehend, but blogs are filled with deniers cutting and pasting the same few discredited "facts" ad nauseam.
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Nowhere is this more apparent than in the worldwide "debate" over climate change. The agenda of disinformation being spread by the coal, oil and gas industry (hundreds of millions of dollars) is very successful. Not only do the hysterical shock jocks like Limbaugh and Jones spread "facts" that they do not comprehend, but blogs are filled with deniers cutting and pasting the same few discredited "facts" ad nauseam.
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Read, research, draw your own conclusions. I've done that and realise that MMGW is not happening - which is contrary to what the opinion of the herd is
Works for me
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Mar 20th 2014, 2:23 am
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The deniers have gone right out the other side of scepticism and into downright loony denial that the facts might have landed with a bunch of steel toecaps on their ideas. The get supported by far right vested interests that really don't care if 4 billion die, just so long as they can add another zero to the end of their bank balance.
The sooner the loonies, and their funders, get held to account for the damage they have bought about, the better.
Getting back on subject, the Indonesians are now saying they didn't see anything on radar :
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-minister.html
So either their radar was even worse than the Malaysians - or the pilot took a route up and around Indonesian airspace to avoid detection of his eventual direction (south), which figures from the most likely scenario.
Mar 20th 2014, 3:18 am
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Abbott saying in PM questions that debris had been spotted by satellite and aircraft were going to check it out :
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-mh370/5334314
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After that press conference, I think they are fairly confident that its something of interest. The list of assets being tasked in that direction was long. 24m in size is a big lump for a satellite pic. They are tasking commercial satellite operators to get releasable pics.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-mh370/5334314
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After that press conference, I think they are fairly confident that its something of interest. The list of assets being tasked in that direction was long. 24m in size is a big lump for a satellite pic. They are tasking commercial satellite operators to get releasable pics.
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Mar 20th 2014, 4:51 am
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Abbott saying in PM questions that debris had been spotted by satellite and aircraft were going to check it out :
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-mh370/5334314
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-mh370/5334314
Mar 20th 2014, 4:57 am
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You are entitled to your own beliefs, not your own facts. If the facts disprove your belief, you need to change your beliefs.
The deniers have gone right out the other side of scepticism and into downright loony denial that the facts might have landed with a bunch of steel toecaps on their ideas. The get supported by far right vested interests that really don't care if 4 billion die, just so long as they can add another zero to the end of their bank balance.
The sooner the loonies, and their funders, get held to account for the damage they have bought about, the better.
Getting back on subject, the Indonesians are now saying they didn't see anything on radar :
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-minister.html
So either their radar was even worse than the Malaysians - or the pilot took a route up and around Indonesian airspace to avoid detection of his eventual direction (south), which figures from the most likely scenario.
The deniers have gone right out the other side of scepticism and into downright loony denial that the facts might have landed with a bunch of steel toecaps on their ideas. The get supported by far right vested interests that really don't care if 4 billion die, just so long as they can add another zero to the end of their bank balance.
The sooner the loonies, and their funders, get held to account for the damage they have bought about, the better.
Getting back on subject, the Indonesians are now saying they didn't see anything on radar :
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-minister.html
So either their radar was even worse than the Malaysians - or the pilot took a route up and around Indonesian airspace to avoid detection of his eventual direction (south), which figures from the most likely scenario.
Mar 20th 2014, 7:08 am
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