Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12919866)

Meanwhile The Feds continue to keep up as in the days of the convict colony. Near impossible to leave. Only advanced Western nation to do so. Good to see Victoria getting on top of their game. Especially seeing some statesmanship at such a time. Something very under appreciated on a forum as this. Obviously errors have been made but nothing along the lines of UK or USA.

QLD's handling of the virus looks set to ensure a continuation of same government. Same in WA. Just shows that the population respects statesmanship being displayed by leaders at such a time.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12919874)

Mis-information unless New Zealand isn't a western country, however I do agree, keeping the borders shut, state and international is insular.

You can leave, on your form say 3 months or longer. Easy peasy.

Bit ironic you talk negatively about international borders then applaud state borders. No surprise I guess as a Labor party member.

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12919886)

Unlike some that appear on here I am not affiliated with any party. I consider both main parties differ little on important issues impacting this nation. All are beholden to vested interests and little if anything will stop the rot will get worse.
Not ironic. Countries in EU have closed sections and cities down. The difference being none have closed borders to leave.

Such a situation should hardly be surprising in a country with few guaranteed rights, I guess.

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12919866)

QLD's handling of the virus looks set to ensure a continuation of same government. Same in WA. Just shows that the population respects statesmanship being displayed by leaders at such a time.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12919963)

Or it's the same old same old in that the opposition is poor. I'd happily see the back of Palaszczuk but the LNP are shite and Deb Frecklington is not someone I ever want to see in control of anything. Better the devil you know etc. Palaszczuk may have 'saved' us from COVID but it's impossible to tell what would have happened if she hadn't taken the steps she has. I think you're giving her more credit than she deserves.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12919963)

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12919942)

So what's your stance? The EU model or the Australian model?

Obviously the EU model is not proving successful in fighting COVID and the Australian model is but there's many more facets to life than COVID.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12919963)

Or it's the same old same old in that the opposition is poor. I'd happily see the back of Palaszczuk but the LNP are shite and Deb Frecklington is not someone I ever want to see in control of anything. Better the devil you know etc. Palaszczuk may have 'saved' us from COVID but it's impossible to tell what would have happened if she hadn't taken the steps she has. I think you're giving her more credit than she deserves.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12920299)

I see Deb is not offering up anything different on the border front. Both know there's too many voting rednecks in QLD who don't get how to balance COVID and life. Indeed better the devil you know.

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12920561)

My stance being neither ALP nor Liberal in the run of things. If referring purely to Corona Virus then ALP State Governments have set a high bench mark.
But obviously coming from a WA state point of view somewhat colours perceptions, with this state being almost unrecognizable being in 'a crisis'.

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12920566)

So how about the redneck Trump supporters that agree with Trump it is only akin to a 'little cold'? Have they the correct balance?

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12920566)

So how about the redneck Trump supporters that agree with Trump it is only akin to a 'little cold'? Have they the correct balance?

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12919942)

So what's your stance? The EU model or the Australian model?

Obviously the EU model is not proving successful in fighting COVID and the Australian model is but there's many more facets to life than COVID.

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12920594)

I'm not too sure (will have to check) but I think that 'redneck Trump supporters' don't get to vote in Australian State elections

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12920577)

How about them?