Manchester
#76
Re: Manchester
One of the hardest issues is narrowing down from 64 million to less than a thousand (so you can give sufficient attention). People searching for extremist websites is a good first step.
#77
Re: Manchester
Allow the websites, and the visitors, to highlight those who are looking for extremist literature.
One of the hardest issues is narrowing down from 64 million to less than a thousand (so you can give sufficient attention). People searching for extremist websites is a good first step.
One of the hardest issues is narrowing down from 64 million to less than a thousand (so you can give sufficient attention). People searching for extremist websites is a good first step.
#78
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 14,040
Re: Manchester
Allow the websites, and the visitors, to highlight those who are looking for extremist literature.
One of the hardest issues is narrowing down from 64 million to less than a thousand (so you can give sufficient attention). People searching for extremist websites is a good first step.
One of the hardest issues is narrowing down from 64 million to less than a thousand (so you can give sufficient attention). People searching for extremist websites is a good first step.
Again back to Islam messaging and its leadership. We seem to want to excuse Islam - why?
#79
Re: Manchester
Probably because 3000 is a bit too high to take an active interest in all of them. As I surmised before, when he went off out of the country before he probably dropped off their active list and then coming back into the country didn't give them enough time to do anything before it was too late.
It sounds easy to say "he was on a list", but the false alarm rates and the manpower needed to actively do something is a limiting factor.
It sounds easy to say "he was on a list", but the false alarm rates and the manpower needed to actively do something is a limiting factor.
#80
Re: Manchester
Carry on as normal they said
Yes, I agree - this is the new normal
Welcome to your multicultural future Britain
Yes, I agree - this is the new normal
Welcome to your multicultural future Britain
#81
Re: Manchester
"Obviously it's a horrific crime that's was perpetrated in <London Bridge> <yesterday evening>. At this time our thoughts are with the <6> families that have had the most loved and cherished people from their lives as well as the <20ish> who are still receiving medical treatment and care. I’m sure members of the police and security services will be working very closely with the <religion name here - TBC, no prizes are on offer> community to fully investigate relevant matters and bring some very small number of individuals to account through the judicial system.
We would ask people to remain calm at this difficult time and remind people that respect for and tolerance for the causes of violence is of the utmost importance to our society. We hypothesis that this will ultimately somehow lead to less violence despite recent evidence to the contrary."
We would ask people to remain calm at this difficult time and remind people that respect for and tolerance for the causes of violence is of the utmost importance to our society. We hypothesis that this will ultimately somehow lead to less violence despite recent evidence to the contrary."
#82
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 706
Re: Manchester
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
#83
Re: Manchester
Oh sorry, I was talking about the 70s & 80s. How short memories are ....
It's religions and ideologies that cause the problem. Whenever someone thinks that their way is the only way, and they are prepared to hurt people and destroy as a consequence, we get trouble. Ever notice they don't build and make better to justify their blinkered mindsets?
The specifics change with the decade, the thought process stays the same.
#85
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 14,040
Re: Manchester
The catholics ?
Oh sorry, I was talking about the 70s & 80s. How short memories are ....
It's religions and ideologies that cause the problem. Whenever someone thinks that their way is the only way, and they are prepared to hurt people and destroy as a consequence, we get trouble. Ever notice they don't build and make better to justify their blinkered mindsets?
The specifics change with the decade, the thought process stays the same.
Oh sorry, I was talking about the 70s & 80s. How short memories are ....
It's religions and ideologies that cause the problem. Whenever someone thinks that their way is the only way, and they are prepared to hurt people and destroy as a consequence, we get trouble. Ever notice they don't build and make better to justify their blinkered mindsets?
The specifics change with the decade, the thought process stays the same.
Islam is todays problem. Not yesterdays. No religion today behaves like the bad eggs of Islam do, in the name of their religion.
Another at London Bridge. My wife and son crossed London Bridge yesterday back to the station after lunch on the north side. I had a beer with some old colleagues at the Wheatsheaf Pub on Thursday.
And what's Islam doing to stop this stuff?
#86
Re: Manchester
Again, I'm watching mobile.phone videos of unarmed bobbies running around, screaming and shouting but ultimately unable to do f**k all to protect the public because they don't got a Glock
Yes, carry on as usual
Yes, carry on as usual
#87
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 10,009
Re: Manchester
Carry on as usual unfortunately is what will probably happen .
#88
Re: Manchester
"Obviously it's a horrific crime that's was perpetrated in <London Bridge> <yesterday evening>. At this time our thoughts are with the <6> families that have had the most loved and cherished people from their lives as well as the <20ish> who are still receiving medical treatment and care. I’m sure members of the police and security services will be working very closely with the <religion name here - TBC, no prizes are on offer> community to fully investigate relevant matters and bring some very small number of individuals to account through the judicial system.
We would ask people to remain calm at this difficult time and remind people that respect for and tolerance for the causes of violence is of the utmost importance to our society. We hypothesis that this will ultimately somehow lead to less violence despite recent evidence to the contrary."
We would ask people to remain calm at this difficult time and remind people that respect for and tolerance for the causes of violence is of the utmost importance to our society. We hypothesis that this will ultimately somehow lead to less violence despite recent evidence to the contrary."
So, what would you suggest? "A murderer has used their screwed up version of a particular faith to commit an atrocity. Consequently, you need to hate and vilify everyone of that faith, frighten them, ostracize them, reject them, isolate and exclude them - because this will lead to less violence" ?
Everyone's upset.
#89
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 14,040
Re: Manchester
Same response as I gave you last time you posted this:
So, what would you suggest? "A murderer has used their screwed up version of a particular faith to commit an atrocity. Consequently, you need to hate and vilify everyone of that faith, frighten them, ostracize them, reject them, isolate and exclude them - because this will lead to less violence" ?
Everyone's upset.
So, what would you suggest? "A murderer has used their screwed up version of a particular faith to commit an atrocity. Consequently, you need to hate and vilify everyone of that faith, frighten them, ostracize them, reject them, isolate and exclude them - because this will lead to less violence" ?
Everyone's upset.
#90
Re: Manchester
Same response as I gave you last time you posted this:
So, what would you suggest? "A murderer has used their screwed up version of a particular faith to commit an atrocity. Consequently, you need to hate and vilify everyone of that faith, frighten them, ostracize them, reject them, isolate and exclude them - because this will lead to less violence" ?
Everyone's upset.
So, what would you suggest? "A murderer has used their screwed up version of a particular faith to commit an atrocity. Consequently, you need to hate and vilify everyone of that faith, frighten them, ostracize them, reject them, isolate and exclude them - because this will lead to less violence" ?
Everyone's upset.