Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
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Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
I haven't ploughed through all 23 pages but one thing that I do remember from the 1960s is that - until 1972 - there was many a twelve year old Irish bride. Also when I was a teenager it was considered a bit risky but not a felony for a teen boy to do the deed with a 15 year old girl, and no doubt vice versa.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
However when has it ever been legal to have a 13 y/o wife in the UK, no matter where you originate from??
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#348
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
I haven't ploughed through all 23 pages but one thing that I do remember from the 1960s is that - until 1972 - there was many a twelve year old Irish bride. Also when I was a teenager it was considered a bit risky but not a felony for a teen boy to do the deed with a 15 year old girl, and no doubt vice versa.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
#349
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
Yep I get that, and getting an immense sense of satisfaction out of watching the bastards squirm now. They knew it was wrong when they were doing it but thought they were above the law, hang em all
However when has it ever been legal to have a 13 y/o wife in the UK, no matter where you originate from??
However when has it ever been legal to have a 13 y/o wife in the UK, no matter where you originate from??
#350
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
Yep I get that, and getting an immense sense of satisfaction out of watching the bastards squirm now. They knew it was wrong when they were doing it but thought they were above the law, hang em all
However when has it ever been legal to have a 13 y/o wife in the UK, no matter where you originate from??
However when has it ever been legal to have a 13 y/o wife in the UK, no matter where you originate from??
We have come on a lot but even now there are apparently a lot of Muslim Australian girls still getting their clitorises cut out, often sent overseas for the job. Don't hear a lot about prosecutions here.
#351
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
It is a favourite in our household too.My parents had twin boys after six girls.We used to sing this to our brothers when they were younger and later to my mother.She cried every time she heard it. I hope its not true.
#352
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
I haven't ploughed through all 23 pages but one thing that I do remember from the 1960s is that - until 1972 - there was many a twelve year old Irish bride. Also when I was a teenager it was considered a bit risky but not a felony for a teen boy to do the deed with a 15 year old girl, and no doubt vice versa.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
My landlord at a bedsit building in Cardiff where I lived had a 13 year old wife, quite legal as he was a Bangla Deshi migrant. Nowadays you would end up on the sex offenders register for life.
Point being that at the time Saville was alleged to have been committing his offences, a lot of things were going on all around that were not acted upon as opinions and values were somewhat different, and anyone wanting to prey on teenage girls wouldn't feel as constrained as perhaps they would nowadays.
Doesn't make it right though.
13 year old girls, even if they are biologically capable of bearing children, are at higher risk of serious complications if they fall pregnant.
They are not emotionally ready and will be at higher risk of cervical cancer when they are older.
Even now, it would be highly unlikely that the police would prosecute a 17 year old boy for having sex with his willing 15 year old girlfriend - it would be pointless. It's a very different thing though than older men preying on vulnerable or naive teens.
I see your point, and I suspect that the likes of Saville were able to convince themselves they were doing nothing wrong. Most sexual predators will find some excuse anyway.
#353
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
It's only been in more modern times that the age of consent has gone up - but even in Western countries in the mid 19th century it was common for children of 10-13 to be married.
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Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
#355
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
Kevin Webster cleared on all charges.
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
#356
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
Kevin Webster cleared on all charges.
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
#357
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
Kevin Webster cleared on all charges.
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
Just having a read of the reports & most state that the CPS defended it's decision to charge Le Vell. The jury heard evidence from a doctor who had examined the girl two years after the alleged offences had been committed. She was found to have never had penetrative sex i.e she was still a virgin. How can CPS bring charges of rape against a bloke when the victim is still a virgin? When it's clear her account is at least in some graphic detail untrue. Quite clearly the girl &/or her mother sought to destroy his life.
Ahh well no more moustache jokes
#358
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
It does my head in when anyone is dragged through the mud like this. The stuff sticks. There is no way his name should be plastered all over the media whilst her name remains secret. I know she was outed but even those who named her were then arrested. Why does she get anonimity when he doesn't and he's the innocent one. Sucks. Big time.
#360
Re: Was Jimmy Saville a paedophile?
It does my head in when anyone is dragged through the mud like this. The stuff sticks. There is no way his name should be plastered all over the media whilst her name remains secret. I know she was outed but even those who named her were then arrested. Why does she get anonimity when he doesn't and he's the innocent one. Sucks. Big time.
I agree with the above.