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Bermudashorts May 28th 2010 10:31 am

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596840)
Dont be silly,they gave a 2 day warning or something,anyway i reckon the council planned it and im not talking army council:p

PS,who was laughing:confused:

I am not sure that there was a warning. If there were I wonder why my little sister went to work as normal that day.

Manchester certainly had a facde lift afterwards, although I thought the Arndale Centre looked much the same as it ever did. (I don't go back much so could be wrong).

Bernieboy May 28th 2010 10:36 am

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8596871)
I am not sure that there was a warning. If there were I wonder why my little sister went to work as normal that day.

Manchester certainly had a facde lift afterwards, although I thought the Arndale Centre looked much the same as it ever did. (I don't go back much so could be wrong).

Did she work in bomb disposal;)

Bermudashorts May 28th 2010 10:57 am

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596880)
Did she work in bomb disposal;)

No. :)

Fly Away May 28th 2010 12:43 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596840)
Dont be silly,they gave a 2 day warning or something,anyway i reckon the council planned it and im not talking army council:p

PS,who was laughing:confused:

I worked in the centre of Manchester for a few years in the 1980s and there were frequent IRA bomb warnings - especially at Christmas time. It got to the point that they weren't really taken that seriously which of course was a huge mistake.

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 28th 2010 1:06 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596541)
Until the IRA came along and gave it a 'lift',straight up in the air:D


Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596840)
Dont be silly,they gave a 2 day warning or something,anyway i reckon the council planned it and im not talking army council:p

PS,who was laughing:confused:

Who was laughing.. you were.. see your quote up there?

It was about a 90min warning, which considering it was on the corner of the second busiest shopping street in the UK wasn't much. If that van had exploded early hundreds would have died, along with the Irish Republican movement.

Amazulu May 28th 2010 1:13 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8596840)
Dont be silly,they gave a 2 day warning or something,anyway i reckon the council planned it and im not talking army council:p

Do you really believe that?

Bernieboy May 28th 2010 1:23 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8597106)
Who was laughing.. you were.. see your quote up there?

It was about a 90min warning, which considering it was on the corner of the second busiest shopping street in the UK wasn't much. If that van had exploded early hundreds would have died, along with the Irish Republican movement.

Best you go to specsavers ya muppet,that is a grin not a laugh,this is a laugh:lol: or:rofl::rolleyes:

Bernieboy May 28th 2010 1:23 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8597115)
Do you really believe that?

Ah no:blink:

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 28th 2010 1:29 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8597127)
Best you go to specsavers ya muppet,that is a grin not a laugh,this is a laugh:lol: or:rofl::rolleyes:

Grin, laugh, smirk, none of them are really an appropriate response to blowing a city up. Anyway, wrong thread for this.

Bernieboy May 28th 2010 1:33 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8597138)
Grin, laugh, smirk, none of them are really an appropriate response to blowing a city up. Anyway, wrong thread for this.

:(:(:(:(:(:(

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 28th 2010 1:35 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8597146)
:(:(

:(:(:):(:( Which one is you?

CelticRover May 28th 2010 1:47 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8597106)
Who was laughing.. you were.. see your quote up there?

It was about a 90min warning, which considering it was on the corner of the second busiest shopping street in the UK wasn't much. If that van had exploded early hundreds would have died, along with the Irish Republican movement.

For some background I googled this:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven..._reports/bomb/

From a historical perspective, I have wondered how the 'troubles' could have lasted so long, if as you are suggesting, the UK could have ended it at will, due to its vastly superior resources. I assume your point would be that the outrage and fallout from such a higher level of devastation would have created such an outcry, that the UK would have pulled out all the stops and gone for a scorched earth policy towards the IRA, thereby eliminating that organisation.
If the UK had the means, why was it not ended sooner?

This is not meant as a wind up. I am interested in that period.

Thanks.

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 28th 2010 1:56 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by CelticRover (Post 8597170)
For some background I googled this:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven..._reports/bomb/

From a historical perspective, I have wondered how the 'troubles' could have lasted so long, if as you are suggesting, the UK could have ended it at will, due to its vastly superior resources. I assume your point would be that the outrage and fallout from such a higher level of devastation would have created such an outcry, that the UK would have pulled out all the stops and gone for a scorched earth policy towards the IRA, thereby eliminating that organisation.
If the UK had the means, why was it not ended sooner?

This is not meant as a wind up. I am interested in that period.

Thanks.

I'm not suggesting that the UK could have "ended it at will".

Terrorist organizations can only exist with the tacit support of a least a part of the populous. A slaughter of hundreds would have removed any last vestiges of that support and the funds that ignorant Irish Americans funnelled into the IRA in support of 'The Struggle'.

Without that support the IRA would have ceased to exist as a viable force.

Bernieboy May 28th 2010 2:04 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8597186)
I'm not suggesting that the UK could have "ended it at will".

Terrorist organizations can only exist with the tacit support of a least a part of the populous. A slaughter of hundreds would have removed any last vestiges of that support and the funds that ignorant Irish Americans funnelled into the IRA in support of 'The Struggle'.

Without that support the IRA would have ceased to exist as a viable force.

Tut tut do you read the daily mail by any chance,yer sooooo far away from how republicans terrorists and their supporters think/behave:huh:,we need to sit down have a chat over a beer or two:rolleyes:

CelticRover May 28th 2010 2:09 pm

Re: If you could live anywhere in world where would it be?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8597186)
I'm not suggesting that the UK could have "ended it at will".

Terrorist organizations can only exist with the tacit support of a least a part of the populous. A slaughter of hundreds would have removed any last vestiges of that support and the funds that ignorant Irish Americans funnelled into the IRA in support of 'The Struggle'.

Without that support the IRA would have ceased to exist as a viable force.

From what I could discern, it took the World Trade Center bombings to alert the IRA to the fact that the game was up, unless they wanted to be treated as a terrorist organisation along with the likes of Al queda and company.
They seemed pretty saavy to the mood of the times.

Regards.


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