soapy©

soapy sits back with a beer and awaits the onslaught from every nationality that has been fekked over by the english

NKSK version 2

Bring it on.

I'll await the onslaught, happy in my English supercilious smugness with which we are so justly famous!!

soapy©

i'll just sit back, point, and laugh
there a bit slow round here, arent they?

why

hello can i say hello too. is it raining there soapy. it is here in adelaide

ragner

Now Now. If us "E N G L I S H" are going to be (as in the words of soapy)Fekked over by every nationality ,pot and kettle black comes to mind.As i wrote earlier in this thread most races( from countries down to villages) have wipped out others.i do think it is totally unfare to give the impression that its just the English (Historically) that have done bad deeds to every other race in this world.I am not going to indervidualise in people or where they were born but it is looking like a witch hunt on all Englishmen who say they are proud of their heritage.( oops sorry i am having ago at the witches now).

Oh well i'll get off my soap box
And have a nice holiday tomorrow all (except people in WA)

soapy©

nah, its a tad cold, but not raining, oh and hello back

chels

'It's nae good blaming it oan the English fir colonizing us. Ah don't hate the English. They're just w******. We can't even pick a decent, healthy culture to be colonized by.' Trainspotting, Irving Welsh.

Re MartinLuther's point:

London's got it's own parliament. Do you think they'll try to get independence from the rest of England?

The Greater London Authority isn't a parliament in the sense of what the Scots have got (though it is similar to the Welsh Assembly). The London Assembly is actually a pretty toothless beast. It's main role is to 'scrutinise and hold to account' the Mayor of London and 'investigate and make recommendations' about issues affecting London. As a whole, the Greater London Authority, apart from being a great publicity machine for the Mayor of London, is a bureaucratic money-waster that has extremely limited powers to strategically manage London's growth and future prosperity for the benefit of all its citizens, the rest of the UK, and other countries that do business with it. It should either be disbanded or given sufficient powers to really run the things it is meant to be managing.

I say all this with the benefit of experience from working for the GLA. If London was to achieve independence with the people currently on the GLA gravy train in charge, it would be a disaster!

brido

Im Glaswegian and proud to be British!

Next point please!?!

brido

Fekked over? Im sitting back with a beer waiting for the onslaught from every nationality thats fekked off with the english!

As for the point about killing aborigones ect,every nationality has mass murder on their hands,thats how the world was shaped.Today people die as countries are still at war with others and even more innocents die at the hands of terrorism,look at Israel,thats a country with non stop slaughter of innocents on boths sides.

northernbird

well bloody good for you. I haven't met that many scots in my life but everyone of them would say they were scottish before they would say they were british.

brido

Not me,British 1st then Scottish,maybe thats why ive been banished to sunny Oz!,However im Scottish 1st at Hogmanay! No one parties like the Scots!

Scossie

Well I see by you avatar that you're obviously a Gers fan.
So am I. I was a season ticket holder, (Copeland Rear) for 11 years before I emigrated.

I'd NEVER say I was British before Scottish though.
When I went to Ibrox I was a Scotsman supporting a Scottish team.
I hated all the, "Queen" crap that went with supporting Rangers.

I don't know what it's like now but when I left, some Rangers fans who were obviously Scotsmen were wearing England tops to the games.
I can't put into words how angry I was to see this.
I have nothing against England or the English but I once told a bloke at a game that he should be ashamed of himself for wearing and England top when he was Scottish. I asked him why he was wearing it. "I don't know. I just am." he said.

I didn't bother continuing the conversation as there didn't seem much point....

Vegemite

I couldnt agree more about Australia...it is shameful. This is not a competition between nations. I am not proud of this aspect of Australia's history, and I am not proud of this part of English history..as this was a human atrocity against fellow human beings. It's mass genocide no matter which way you look at it. I'd be in haste to say "oh, so and so country did this etc so it all pans out in the wash". Would I be proud of any country who commits mass genocide? Nup - no matter where I'm from. It doesnt mean I'm lingering in the past - actually I feel we should all move on and try to help others as much as possible.

I've come across a lot of people who well, um, seem too blind when it comes to their own history - Aussies and English included, but I have to say especially the English, as your sense of national identity and pride seems tied up in your history. I often hear this - they say they are very proud - I just hope they aren't looking through rose coloured glasses? Lets remember with respect the millions of people that you guys slaughtered and whose lands you invaded. In the case of Tasmania, you guys wiped out nearly an entire population - they as a peoples, became extinct. I certainly feel no pride in such events, as I'm sure you don't either.

The point being, that if you only remember the factual good and not the factual bad, than that is just plain not being factual about your own history, its only romanticising the past.

LisaD_uk

In answer to the original question as I can't be arsed to f**king go on about who did this and who did that.
I am English because I always make idle chit chat about the weather.

Who am I kidding I need to get it off my chest.

I Consider myself English as I was born here but I am also British. My Grandad was born in Scotland and his father was from Ireland, my Nana was born in lancashire and my Dads mum was from Wales.
I would like to know why is it all people from where ever they come from have every right to say they are proud to be whatever they are but heaven forbid an Englishman(or woman) say they are proud and the shit hits the fan. I don't see why people cannot just live and let live. It bugs the hell out of me, we have a really good friend of the family who is Scottish and if England are playing football he would support the opposite team, I asked him why and he said cause we hate the English, I always support another British team If England are not playing.

LisaD_uk

I would just like to say to you (who in my opinion opened this can of worms)its good that you are proud to be British but what right have you got to tell someone to "stop referring to being English in all your posts" why should someone not be proud of where they are from and why should they justify it to you.
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