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nickyjohnt Apr 5th 2009 12:06 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7452809)
Thanks for your advice.................I have a week off at the end of the month, will get her booked in.
As for the 'staring' issue, we have always thought she was quite funny, now I realize its her way of domineering...............will put a stop to that!!!

Who needs specialist treatment when we have fantastic help here on BE :thumbsup:



Its the same as Willo, although being younger and a lot smaller than Angel she is the boss out of the two !
She just has give Angel one of her funny looks as we call it , and the poor thing turns into a nervous wreck !

Think if you have two or more dogs in one house , there will always be a domimant one !
Hope it works out well, will be lovely to take them all out to the beach again soon !

Nicky

MarkMC Apr 5th 2009 12:07 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7453117)
Many thanks for your advice.

It was Kerry that was being helpful.:thumbsup:


Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7453117)
but have come to the conclusion it is definitely the female causing the problems.

I couldn't help jumping in when I read this. I'm sure there are a large group of men on here that could have told you this.:rofl:

Mark

Cheetah7 Apr 5th 2009 2:55 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by MarkMC (Post 7453101)
Be careful with the staring as it can mean to some dominant dogs you are challenging them and the dog can go into defence mode. The Alpha dog of a pack will stare at other dogs to put them in there place, but they will look away so if a dog does this and you continue to stare back its a challenge to a dog then to defend its pack position.
We have two large crates (like cages) and when we go out they go in there and if they are going to crazy and need calming down they go in there to cool off, its there own space and they know they are safe and always get a treat when they are in them.
I think you will she a huge difference in her when she has had her op. Kymba had it done at 5 months she was up and about the same night I think I had two days off work with her.
A great book to help you learn the mind of a dog is The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell.
Boxers are hard work at the best of times. Hope it all works out ok with her.

I could get away with staring at my bitch because her attempts to be dominant were half hearted and my tom cat used to bash the crap out of her.

Boxers do make me laugh, my mates Boxer 'Baggins' could trash a kitchen in the shortest time, go through the cupboards and bins - pasta/rice everywhere even on his face and he would still 'deny' it.

They lived in shared house for vet nurses and one day he went into the other vet nurses room and took a dump on her floor, and calmly went downstairs. That dog was so funny, Boxers are real characters - I love them. Baggins used to drool - you could paper a wall with his drool

sj oldfield Apr 7th 2009 11:28 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
Boxers do make me laugh, my mates Boxer 'Baggins' could trash a kitchen in the shortest time, go through the cupboards and bins - pasta/rice everywhere even on his face and he would still 'deny' it.


You're dead right there...........I could go on all day about the things they have trashed!!!
The worst was when they 'ate' the monster size bean bag I had taken ages to make...............big enough for both of them to spread out on...........lasted all of about 2 hours!!:eek:
Bloody mess everywhere, took hours to clean up. Both of them looking at me,as if to say..'wasnt me'....... with bloody beans stuck all around their gobs!!

sj oldfield Apr 7th 2009 11:29 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by nickyjohnt (Post 7453130)
Its the same as Willo, although being younger and a lot smaller than Angel she is the boss out of the two !
She just has give Angel one of her funny looks as we call it , and the poor thing turns into a nervous wreck !

Think if you have two or more dogs in one house , there will always be a domimant one !
Hope it works out well, will be lovely to take them all out to the beach again soon !

Nicky


Yeah but Chelsea is getting really nasty!!
Sunday night, sitting there, thinking where the bloody hell has Lamps gone..............found him hiding in the ensuite toilet!!!

Ryem78 Apr 7th 2009 12:51 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
Sandra I'd recomend you see a behavioural consultant before giving her the chop - especially if there's a reason why she hasn't been spayed in the first place. There are so many factors to take into account, and so many opinions out there - why waste the time, effort, money and pain when it might have little/nothing to do with her hormones. Your vet should be able to recomend a local behaviourist.

Cheetah7 Apr 8th 2009 12:31 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by Ryem78 (Post 7459036)
Sandra I'd recomend you see a behavioural consultant before giving her the chop - especially if there's a reason why she hasn't been spayed in the first place. There are so many factors to take into account, and so many opinions out there - why waste the time, effort, money and pain when it might have little/nothing to do with her hormones. Your vet should be able to recomend a local behaviourist.

That is very true but unless she is a brood bitch, not having her spayed puts her at greater risk from a pyo.

Ill never forget seeing one 4 year old bitch die because of a pyo - she deteriorated fast as well.

I was always taught as a vet nurse that unless you are breeding from your bitch, get them spayed - to avoid pyo, to avoid unwanted puppies and to avoid pent up sexual frustration when they are shut in a garden when they are in season.

sel Apr 8th 2009 1:40 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
Sudden behavioural changes are also a classic sign of illness or injury and because the dog may look fine, it is often overlooked and put down to other things especially when they are the dominant type to start with.

I would start with a full health exam and agree with Sam to get her desexed.

Hopefully, harmony will be restored soon :)

sj oldfield Apr 8th 2009 9:23 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
First of all, whats Pyo?

Secondly the vet has confirmed she is of a very dominant nature.We initially didnt get her desexed as she is extremely pretty......she has a 'puppy' face. But she is very tiny and the vetss have expresed concern over her delivering if we breed.............so we are def going to get her desexed

sel Apr 8th 2009 2:13 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7462113)
First of all, whats Pyo?

Secondly the vet has confirmed she is of a very dominant nature.We initially didnt get her desexed as she is extremely pretty......she has a 'puppy' face. But she is very tiny and the vetss have expresed concern over her delivering if we breed.............so we are def going to get her desexed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyometra

MarkMC Apr 8th 2009 10:53 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7462113)
First of all, whats Pyo?

Secondly the vet has confirmed she is of a very dominant nature.We initially didnt get her desexed as she is extremely pretty......she has a 'puppy' face. But she is very tiny and the vetss have expresed concern over her delivering if we breed.............so we are def going to get her desexed

Kymba is just the same she is very pretty and still has that cute puppy look, which is a pain when she has been naughty as it's so hard to tell her off when she looks so cute at you.
We had Kymba's op done straight away because if we had bred from her I would never of been able to give the puppies away. I would now have a house full of very cute Boxers :D

coolerkingcooler Apr 8th 2009 11:34 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by MarkMC (Post 7453101)
Be careful with the staring as it can mean to some dominant dogs you are challenging them and the dog can go into defence mode. The Alpha dog of a pack will stare at other dogs to put them in there place, but they will look away so if a dog does this and you continue to stare back its a challenge to a dog then to defend its pack position.
We have two large crates (like cages) and when we go out they go in there and if they are going to crazy and need calming down they go in there to cool off, its there own space and they know they are safe and always get a treat when they are in them.
I think you will she a huge difference in her when she has had her op. Kymba had it done at 5 months she was up and about the same night I think I had two days off work with her.
A great book to help you learn the mind of a dog is The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell.
Boxers are hard work at the best of times. Hope it all works out ok with her.

Is this the woman who was on CH5 in the UK? If so, she was superb and I used some of her techniques on a relatives Boxer and they worked in ten minutes - amazing.

Cooler

MarkMC Apr 9th 2009 10:48 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
She did have TV programme but can't remember what channel it was one.

bourbon-biscuit Apr 9th 2009 10:56 am

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 

Originally Posted by sj oldfield (Post 7458830)
The worst was when they 'ate' the monster size bean bag I had taken ages to make...............big enough for both of them to spread out on...........lasted all of about 2 hours!!:eek:
Bloody mess everywhere, took hours to clean up. Both of them looking at me,as if to say..'wasnt me'....... with bloody beans stuck all around their gobs!!

:rofl:

I love boxers too! Not that I have one- mine is an obnoxious staffie cross (vet thinks staffie x whippet, which makes sense).

Second (third?) the getting her speyed vote.

Joannec2014 Apr 9th 2009 12:47 pm

Re: I need The Dog Whisperer!!
 
I hope your pack return to a 'calm submissive' state soon! I've watched the Dog Whisperer Cesar Milan A LOT and most dominence issues arise from the dog not recognising the humans as pack leaders....dominence over you can be all that 'cute' stuff like jumping up to great you when you come home which is actually them ascerting dominence over you, sleeping on your sofa, putting a paw on you..are all dominence signals in the dog world...as is dragging you on the lead etc. Maybe some boundaries need to be set to make them understand that you are in control of the pack and that they don't need to sort it out between them. Dogs are very bloomin' clever at making us think they are being cute and affectionate when in fact they are thinking we are loyal subjects lol!!!!

Good Luck with it your dogs sound cool!

http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/tips/


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