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Old Aug 21st 2007, 7:43 am
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http://www.theage.com.au/news/Nation...462219741.html

Worrying.....very worrying indeed!
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Old Aug 21st 2007, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by FluffyTheCampfireSlayer
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Nation...462219741.html

Worrying.....very worrying indeed!
Steve has doen an awful lot of flying with Qantas since we got here, but it's ok, I'm not worried (he's insured )
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Old Aug 21st 2007, 8:49 am
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As a Licensed Aircraft Engineer myself, I cannot see how Qantas and CASA have let this occur. We work in one of the most regulated, quality assurance backed and checked parts of the aviation industry. Certainly when I got my job I had to provide my original licence, course certificates (both of which could be verified through the UK CAA) and then attend a 3 hour technical interview before I was let loose. Things at Qantas must be worse than I thought. Still that is what you get when costs are cut to provide cheaper fares, but thats another arguement.
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Still that is what you get when costs are cut to provide cheaper fares, but thats another arguement.
Qantas fares are rarely cheaper so cannot use that argument!
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Had to chuckle when the news item was followed immediately by a Qantas ad extolling the engineering knowhow and safety culture!

But these thing do happen - especially when there is so much bureaucracy and box-ticking.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Qantas fares are rarely cheaper so cannot use that argument!
Actually, that said, I heard on the radio today that they are flying Brisbane to London return for $1399 plus tax.

Thats not half bad at all I reckon.
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I'm sure he's not the first (nor the last) person to lie about or fabricate what he can do to get a promotion and payrise!
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Originally Posted by FluffyTheCampfireSlayer
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Nation...462219741.html

Worrying.....very worrying indeed!
I like the bit here it says the think his his work was "pretty safe"
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I'm sure he's not the first (nor the last) person to lie about or fabricate what he can do to get a promotion and payrise!
Maybe not. But he is probably one of the first to get into a highly responsible position by doing it. Heard of Doctors being impersonated before, and this is of the same level. Everytime he signed for a job or Flight Clearance he was potentially putting 300+ peoples lives at risk by his ignorance, and potentially still is. Everything thing that I, or any other LAE signs for, we are responsible for until that part is removed from the aircraft and that could be several years / flights. If through my negligence something goes wrong I could be liable to appear in court on very serious charges i.e manslaughter. Today I have signed off on 23 items of varying complexity and cleared the aircraft to fly with 250+ pax onboard. That is why we are Licensed and heavily regulated. 18months to train a pilot, 7 years to train an LAE.
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Maybe not. But he is probably one of the first to get into a highly responsible position by doing it. Heard of Doctors being impersonated before, and this is of the same level. Everytime he signed for a job or Flight Clearance he was potentially putting 300+ peoples lives at risk by his ignorance, and potentially still is. Everything thing that I, or any other LAE signs for, we are responsible for until that part is removed from the aircraft and that could be several years / flights. If through my negligence something goes wrong I could be liable to appear in court on very serious charges i.e manslaughter. Today I have signed off on 23 items of varying complexity and cleared the aircraft to fly with 250+ pax onboard. That is why we are Licensed and heavily regulated. 18months to train a pilot, 7 years to train an LAE.
Luckily most people, like yourself are normal people with a healthy conscience and feeling of responsibility!

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
Maybe not. But he is probably one of the first to get into a highly responsible position by doing it. Heard of Doctors being impersonated before, and this is of the same level. Everytime he signed for a job or Flight Clearance he was potentially putting 300+ peoples lives at risk by his ignorance, and potentially still is. Everything thing that I, or any other LAE signs for, we are responsible for until that part is removed from the aircraft and that could be several years / flights. If through my negligence something goes wrong I could be liable to appear in court on very serious charges i.e manslaughter. Today I have signed off on 23 items of varying complexity and cleared the aircraft to fly with 250+ pax onboard. That is why we are Licensed and heavily regulated. 18months to train a pilot, 7 years to train an LAE.
One of Ernest Gann's books tell of an airline captain who flew without major incident for years without *any* sort of flying licence: he was only found out when his aircraft had mechanical problems as I remember it!
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One of Ernest Gann's books tell of an airline captain who flew without major incident for years without *any* sort of flying licence: he was only found out when his aircraft had mechanical problems as I remember it!
It's true then. Any fool can fly them!
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It's true then. Any fool can fly them!
Certainly looks that way.
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Nothing personal TOM but who do you work for,just incase.
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Nothing personal TOM but who do you work for,just incase.
Not Qantas!!
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