How would you feel if you got this email 2
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Have to say, they should have been allowed to march. All the way to the airport.
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PS I have no real beliefs apart from bacon and beer, oh and being nice to people
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Totally agree, if I marched the streets of Sydney spouting that sort of thing, especially in a country that was willing to accept my beliefs, I would be quite rightly told if you don't like it bugger off.
PS I have no real beliefs apart from bacon and beer, oh and being nice to people
PS I have no real beliefs apart from bacon and beer, oh and being nice to people
Further things I think should be strongly considered for believing in-- gammon and pea & ham soup and roast pork and ham hocks with sauerkraut and pork pies and sweet and sour pork and Newcastle Brown Ale.
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I find the woman irritating to be honest. Her voice and manner. Certainly another go at showing Muslims in a bad light. She's seeking to a degree confrontation for the sake of the film.
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No denying what their message is though in fairness, irritating or not. I personally think the marchers were the confrontational ones and she was reacting. I think if they were shown in a bad light it was their own doing
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Ahhh ha !-- so you know what they were actually marching about , I completely missed it--pray would you mind enlightening me , I got the bit about the old bill not being their favourite corporate citizens but as to the rest ????????????????
Further things I think should be strongly considered for believing in-- gammon and pea & ham soup and roast pork and ham hocks with sauerkraut and pork pies and sweet and sour pork and Newcastle Brown Ale.
Further things I think should be strongly considered for believing in-- gammon and pea & ham soup and roast pork and ham hocks with sauerkraut and pork pies and sweet and sour pork and Newcastle Brown Ale.
Fetch my shotgun
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Go back to the lands of your forebears and nut it out there if the UK is so bad.
I know that's exactly what immigrants who aren't satisfied with Australia get told--and do.
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To put the whole thing in perspective, Westerners (many of them Christians) are being far more abusive to Arabs of all types in their home nations, and more violent. Brits, Australians, etc, are absolutely entitled to tell the abusers of Western societies to piss off back to wherever they came from; but to be fair, their brothers and sisters who never left "back home" are equally entitled to tell our bunch to piss off back to wherever they came from.
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
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To put the whole thing in perspective, Westerners (many of them Christians) are being far more abusive to Arabs of all types in their home nations, and more violent. Brits, Australians, etc, are absolutely entitled to tell the abusers of Western societies to piss off back to wherever they came from; but to be fair, their brothers and sisters who never left "back home" are equally entitled to tell our bunch to piss off back to wherever they came from.
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
People seem to lose sight of the historical fact that Britain has always had waves of migrants that change the Landscape. It's one of the UK's greatest strengths being able to grow and develop through these influences. Some of the waves are harder to assimilate than others. In the long run the situation will homogenise like it always has before and the UK will be all the stronger for it.
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Born in Luton & Dunstable Hospital, spent 40+ years a few miles away. In all that time, some areas of Luton have been, as near as damn it, no go areas for White/Christian/Anglo Saxon (whatever label you want to use). Nothing's changed in that time. The UK is a democratic country (group of), they have every right to do what they were doing. Do I agree with what they were apparently shouting about, no I don't but, in my opinion anyway, it's no different from The National Front or Anti Nazi League marches in the 70s. Minute percentage of the population out for a walk to get some publicity. Until 'they' do something illegal then let them get on with it.
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Born in Luton & Dunstable Hospital, spent 40+ years a few miles away. In all that time, some areas of Luton have been, as near as damn it, no go areas for White/Christian/Anglo Saxon (whatever label you want to use). Nothing's changed in that time. The UK is a democratic country (group of), they have every right to do what they were doing. Do I agree with what they were apparently shouting about, no I don't but, in my opinion anyway, it's no different from The National Front or Anti Nazi League marches in the 70s. Minute percentage of the population out for a walk to get some publicity. Until 'they' do something illegal then let them get on with it.
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Stupid twats. I'd rather go to the hellfire than have to walk about in a tent all the time and not be able to drink wine
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In Scotland you can get arrested for singing sectarian songs about The Pope.
So the right to protest isn't applied equally, pretty sure I'd get arrested for walking about in a white klu klux klan hood.
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To put the whole thing in perspective, Westerners (many of them Christians) are being far more abusive to Arabs of all types in their home nations, and more violent. Brits, Australians, etc, are absolutely entitled to tell the abusers of Western societies to piss off back to wherever they came from; but to be fair, their brothers and sisters who never left "back home" are equally entitled to tell our bunch to piss off back to wherever they came from.
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
All those silly men and women in Luton in their weird looking gear - pathetic! BUT not particularly dangerous. "Our bunch", in their countries, also dress weirdly, by local standards. If they - the foreigners in England - are out of line, how much worse are the armed and uniformed foreigners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (soon) Syria and Iran?
I wrote about this sort of double-standard on my blog way back in December 2010, titled "The Last Crusade". In it, I made (I think) quite a good case against double standards. Also in my blog, for anybody interested, I wrote about my travels (with my girlfriend, backpacking) in the Middle East decades ago before the Western invasions. Moslems, like Christians and Jews, range from wild-eyed bigots to laid-back types with no hostility towards any religion.
Sure, we can get indignant with the idiots in the video, but at least they're not (as our people are in the Middle East) firing off rifles and drones. I would hope that the fair-minded folk of British Expats agree with me that the relevant governments should do a deal. Everybody go back to where they came from. Does that sound fair?
I believe protest should be allowed up to a point, but where it crosses the line into racist hatred, whether it is from extreme right/left or religious views, then it has to be stopped.
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It seems to me there are always parts of the UK that are not as nice as others - and that people who live there have more to complain about than others - even if it means there is some sort of tension.
I suspect that more than 99.9pc of the population do have something to complain about - even if it is their economic situation...and not religion.
until we put ourselves in the shoes of all parties we can't really know.
I have never lived in a inner city or an area which is considered to have been overtaken - for the worse? - so it's hard to know what it is like.
I suspect that more than 99.9pc of the population do have something to complain about - even if it is their economic situation...and not religion.
until we put ourselves in the shoes of all parties we can't really know.
I have never lived in a inner city or an area which is considered to have been overtaken - for the worse? - so it's hard to know what it is like.