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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Ouch. That's what was happening in Sydney & Brisbane in the final throws of their booms. It was interesting times ![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
25 years ago Brisbane prices were only $2,000 more than Perth, but the gap widened to $44,000 by 2002.
But it seems Perth has now caught up and surpassed Brisbane !
What does the future hold ? Will Brisbane take off again, or will Perth drop ? or will Perth stay ahead ?
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25 years ago Brisbane prices were only $2,000 more than Perth, but the gap widened to $44,000 by 2002.
But it seems Perth has now caught up and surpassed Brisbane !
What does the future hold ? Will Brisbane take off again, or will Perth drop ? or will Perth stay ahead ?
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the last quarter saw a rise of 6.2% in WA, it's got to end somewhere or it will all end in tears mate...
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Originally Posted by walla1
the budgies are telling lies.
PMSL, I thought that was just me that thought that
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
It does depend on the comparison area
But they aren't as cheap as they were![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Rockingham Median Property prices Jan 2006
Houses $263,000
Units $177,000
http://www.homepriceguide.com.au/snapshot/
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But they aren't as cheap as they were
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Rockingham Median Property prices Jan 2006
Houses $263,000
Units $177,000
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Sounds pretty 'kin cheap to me. $263k where we're moving to would get you a very crap house in only the nastiest of areas. :scared:
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I just looked on www.realestate.com.au , and there is nothing left under $200k even in the units market !
Cheapest was $139k, but it's under contract. Oh, there is one at $199k - 2 beds, but tenanted at $120pw.
Cheapest was $139k, but it's under contract. Oh, there is one at $199k - 2 beds, but tenanted at $120pw.
Not much on in my area for under $500K - if the average income is $51K how can property be so expensive?? Somethings not right its working out more expensive than property in london.
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Not much on in my area for under $500K - if the average income is $51K how can property be so expensive?? Somethings not right its working out more expensive than property in london.
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And more expensive than London? Hmmm.
$500k = £213,000.
What do you get for £213,000 in London these days?
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Not much in your area for under $500k? That must be quite some area you're living in! ![EEK!](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
And more expensive than London? Hmmm.
$500k = £213,000.
What do you get for £213,000 in London these days?![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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And more expensive than London? Hmmm.
$500k = £213,000.
What do you get for £213,000 in London these days?
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Originally Posted by thebears
Okay maybe not London but we currently live in the commuter belt of the south east and have sold our house for £450K to get the same size house in the area we need to live in will cost me $1.7 million. And trust me we are not slumming it here in UK. £450K @ 2.34 = 1.057 million.
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Originally Posted by thebears
Okay maybe not London but we currently live in the commuter belt of the south east and have sold our house for £450K to get the same size house in the area we need to live in will cost me $1.7 million. And trust me we are not slumming it here in UK. £450K @ 2.34 = 1.057 million.
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The house you're selling is in the UK, yes? And the area you "need" to live in is in Australia, yes? Or did I get that wrong?
What area is this, and why do you need to live there? Is it for work?
I'm struggling to think of any place in Australia which people actually need to live in, with properties costing $1.7 million.
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Sorry, I'm confused. Do you currently live in the UK, or Australia? ![Confused](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif)
The house you're selling is in the UK, yes? And the area you "need" to live in is in Australia, yes? Or did I get that wrong?
What area is this, and why do you need to live there? Is it for work?
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The house you're selling is in the UK, yes? And the area you "need" to live in is in Australia, yes? Or did I get that wrong?
What area is this, and why do you need to live there? Is it for work?
I'm struggling to think of any place in Australia which people actually need to live in, with properties costing $1.7 million.
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Originally Posted by thebears
In UK until end of month
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Toorak, Melbourne, Australia
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It was the 2nd highest income bracket suburb in Australia, with a median taxable income in 2000/2001, of $111,499, when the national average wage was $38,539. http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessiona...9#P4365_203712
Based on that, and the current national average of $53,175, I would expect the average "taxable" income in that area to be about $155,000 per year now.
"taxable income" = after their expensive accountants have trimmed the real income right down
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Originally Posted by thebears
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Classic! Bit like someone planning to move the the UK and moaning about the house prices in Mayfair.
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Originally Posted by renth
Classic! Bit like someone planning to move the the UK and moaning about the house prices in Mayfair.
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Originally Posted by thebears
In UK until end of month
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Toorak, Melbourne, Australia
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Daughters school and to be close to my dying parents
You are very fortunate to have the means to live near your parents during their final years. My grandfather died in Australia last year, and I couldn't afford to fly over and see him before the end- or even to attend his funeral. I couldn't phone him up, because he had lost the power of speech by the time the doctors realised he was going to die. All I could do was send him an email, which my younger brother read to him on my behalf.
I hadn't seen him for nearly two years. It was a bitter blow.
BTW, you may be interested to know that the average price of a bog-standard 3-bedroom bungalow on a tiny block in Walsall, is currently sitting around $200,000 (and frequently higher.)
That's $469,639 for a very ordinary house (smaller than the average Aussie equivalent) in a very ordinary area, with chavs and boy racers for neighbours, and council housing estates just five minutes away. Charming, eh?
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Yes, property prices in Australia have gone through the roof over the past 10 years - just as they have in the UK.
But at the end of the day, when it comes down to the question of value for money, Australia wins hands down.
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