View Poll Results: How Australian do you actually feel.
0-2 - Not in the slighest and almost certain I never will
14
36.84%
3-5 - Didn't at all, but some Australian feelings are coming through.g to occur
4
10.53%
5-7: The UK (Or whereever) is starting to feel like a distant memory "Mate"
13
34.21%
8-10: Strewth mate was I ever anything else?
7
18.42%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll
How "Australian" do you feel.
Jul 24th 2020, 6:16 am
#91
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
But surely going with the flow while most probably ensuring survival (or at the least making life more easier) in very macho dominated roles and increasingly those in office type environments, in actuality it refers to 'keeping quiet' thus suppressing dissent and allowing fear in various shades to too often dictate a working environment. A reason why so many mistakes are evident in management in performing so badly. I suppose a lot depends on the job title one finds oneself in and the time of duration in Australia.
I can only speak for myself, but preconceptions do not feature much of a part on my own story, although without doubt they do on others.
I can only speak for myself, but preconceptions do not feature much of a part on my own story, although without doubt they do on others.
Jul 24th 2020, 7:25 am
#92
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
you're overthinking this i think. If i buy a Mazda 2 seater convertible, I can't really complain to Mazda that I can't fit my wife, 2 kids and dog plus luggage for a 2 week camping holiday in it. At the very least you buy something you think should be fit for purpose, if it turns out not to be, you learn a lesson and try something else. To quote Jack Nicholson "the less you give a **** the happier you'll be" words to live by
but it is certainly not being docile and accepting for the sake of it.
But hey, I have already accepted we are different and approach things differently. I guess it's part of our make up and personality. Just as standing for beliefs and speaking out as well as being able to defend and articulate them. To believe in nothing ,which not giving a 4XXXX is , to my thinking sounds incredibly shallow . It's not about things, those are easily changed to suit but the sort of emotional intelligence, is not in possession of can be exceedingly difficult to acquire.
You may well think this as pompous claptrap. To me it just underlines the different conclusions arrived at by considering the same theme. Most likely it points to how different folk thrive in differing environments with not a lot of rom to maneuver.
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Jul 24th 2020, 7:36 am
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
But I expect like me Jack does give a XXXX. It's in part how he got rich and in the position he is. There a time to separate from the herd and be fearless to speaking out. It obviously may not always fall the way preferred, but it can make a difference. Nothing to do with 'overthinking it' ,
but it is certainly not being docile and accepting for the sake of it.
But hey, I have already accepted we are different and approach things differently. I guess it's part of our make up and personality. Just as standing for beliefs and speaking out as well as being able to defend and articulate them. To believe in nothing ,which not giving a 4XXXX is , to my thinking sounds incredibly shallow . It's not about things, those are easily changed to suit but the sort of emotional intelligence, is not in possession of can be exceedingly difficult to acquire.
You may well think this as pompous claptrap. To me it just underlines the different conclusions arrived at by considering the same theme. Most likely it points to how different folk thrive in differing environments with not a lot of rom to maneuver.
but it is certainly not being docile and accepting for the sake of it.
But hey, I have already accepted we are different and approach things differently. I guess it's part of our make up and personality. Just as standing for beliefs and speaking out as well as being able to defend and articulate them. To believe in nothing ,which not giving a 4XXXX is , to my thinking sounds incredibly shallow . It's not about things, those are easily changed to suit but the sort of emotional intelligence, is not in possession of can be exceedingly difficult to acquire.
You may well think this as pompous claptrap. To me it just underlines the different conclusions arrived at by considering the same theme. Most likely it points to how different folk thrive in differing environments with not a lot of rom to maneuver.
Chill
Jul 24th 2020, 8:27 am
#94
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
But I expect like me Jack does give a XXXX. It's in part how he got rich and in the position he is. There a time to separate from the herd and be fearless to speaking out. It obviously may not always fall the way preferred, but it can make a difference. Nothing to do with 'overthinking it' ,
but it is certainly not being docile and accepting for the sake of it.
But hey, I have already accepted we are different and approach things differently. I guess it's part of our make up and personality. Just as standing for beliefs and speaking out as well as being able to defend and articulate them. To believe in nothing ,which not giving a 4XXXX is , to my thinking sounds incredibly shallow . It's not about things, those are easily changed to suit but the sort of emotional intelligence, is not in possession of can be exceedingly difficult to acquire.
You may well think this as pompous claptrap. To me it just underlines the different conclusions arrived at by considering the same theme. Most likely it points to how different folk thrive in differing environments with not a lot of rom to maneuver.
but it is certainly not being docile and accepting for the sake of it.
But hey, I have already accepted we are different and approach things differently. I guess it's part of our make up and personality. Just as standing for beliefs and speaking out as well as being able to defend and articulate them. To believe in nothing ,which not giving a 4XXXX is , to my thinking sounds incredibly shallow . It's not about things, those are easily changed to suit but the sort of emotional intelligence, is not in possession of can be exceedingly difficult to acquire.
You may well think this as pompous claptrap. To me it just underlines the different conclusions arrived at by considering the same theme. Most likely it points to how different folk thrive in differing environments with not a lot of rom to maneuver.
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Jul 24th 2020, 10:05 am
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
and not going with the flow. It is about making your voice heard in a sea of ignorance It's about preferring to be around people with an interest in life(interesting people) and are articulate enough to provoke thought and interest. Otherwise we may as well be cows
munching in a field.
Jul 24th 2020, 10:14 am
#97
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
Whoa, cowpoke. I'll find you a spur and see how you ride bareback. If you can't cope with the words of your mother tongue,
then not a lot of hope for you I'm afraid.
If you don't like my comments, there is no compulsion to respond. My comments are purely my own sentiments into
'How Australian I feel' and as such, fluck all to you to warrant be termed 'a tosser' by the likes of you.
then not a lot of hope for you I'm afraid.
If you don't like my comments, there is no compulsion to respond. My comments are purely my own sentiments into
'How Australian I feel' and as such, fluck all to you to warrant be termed 'a tosser' by the likes of you.
Jul 24th 2020, 10:54 am
#98
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
I think we are on totally different wave lengths and never shall the twain meet. I don't disagree with the above. It's not about changing. No idea where you come to that conclusion if that is the case about what I have written. It's about standing by beliefs
and not going with the flow. It is about making your voice heard in a sea of ignorance It's about preferring to be around people with an interest in life(interesting people) and are articulate enough to provoke thought and interest. Otherwise we may as well be cows
munching in a field.
and not going with the flow. It is about making your voice heard in a sea of ignorance It's about preferring to be around people with an interest in life(interesting people) and are articulate enough to provoke thought and interest. Otherwise we may as well be cows
munching in a field.
Jul 24th 2020, 10:59 am
#99
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
Whoa, cowpoke. I'll find you a spur and see how you ride bareback. If you can't cope with the words of your mother tongue,
then not a lot of hope for you I'm afraid.
If you don't like my comments, there is no compulsion to respond. My comments are purely my own sentiments into
'How Australian I feel' and as such, fluck all to you to warrant be termed 'a tosser' by the likes of you.
then not a lot of hope for you I'm afraid.
If you don't like my comments, there is no compulsion to respond. My comments are purely my own sentiments into
'How Australian I feel' and as such, fluck all to you to warrant be termed 'a tosser' by the likes of you.
Jul 25th 2020, 4:59 am
#100
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
But surely going with the flow while most probably ensuring survival (or at the least making life more easier) in very macho dominated roles and increasingly those in office type environments, in actuality it refers to 'keeping quiet' thus suppressing dissent and allowing fear in various shades to too often dictate a working environment. A reason why so many mistakes are evident in management in performing so badly. I suppose a lot depends on the job title one finds oneself in and the time of duration in Australia.
I can only speak for myself, but preconceptions do not feature much of a part on my own story, although without doubt they do on others.
I can only speak for myself, but preconceptions do not feature much of a part on my own story, although without doubt they do on others.
Bad management exists all over the world. Seen plenty of bad managers in the UK and Australia. Have worked with plenty of bad managers who live in India or the US.
It's down to You to play the politics if you are trying to climb the corporate tree.
Jul 26th 2020, 1:33 am
#102
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
Is macho bad management an Australian thing? I think not. Macho might be a Perth thing. I do find the engineering side of things quite macho in Perth compared to other parts of Australia and the world. But that's not a bad thing. It's direct. No wishy washy rubbish. A spade is a spade.
Bad management exists all over the world. Seen plenty of bad managers in the UK and Australia. Have worked with plenty of bad managers who live in India or the US.
It's down to You to play the politics if you are trying to climb the corporate tree.
Bad management exists all over the world. Seen plenty of bad managers in the UK and Australia. Have worked with plenty of bad managers who live in India or the US.
It's down to You to play the politics if you are trying to climb the corporate tree.
If ordinary folk heard some of the comments expressed , egalitarian notions would go out the window. Incompetency in too many cases comes to mind. As for engineering, I know quite a few. Neighbour across road in fact, and they give a very poor account of what has happened within the profession, and want out and retrain to be a doctor. While others complain the 'industry' is over subscribed by incomers . But all this is well removed from the original sentiments of feelings with regards to being Australian.
Jul 26th 2020, 1:57 am
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
I prefer just to accept people for what they are, however they articulate. Pretty much everyone is interesting if you delve beneath the surface, but that takes a bit of patience and a willingness not to judge at face value. I've got friends that are as thick as two short planks, and lovely people. I have friends that are borderline genius, and lovely people. I focus on their personality and kindness, their intelligence plays no part in it.
Jul 26th 2020, 3:17 am
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
Jul 26th 2020, 6:48 am
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Re: How "Australian" do you feel.
I guess you must wonder what it was all about? You know reaching an certain age and coming out with such cringe worthy one liners.
That and an inability to properly converse in what i assume is mother tongue.
Sounds to me 'old timer' like you are reflecting own less than successful outcomes at the game of life . A trite sad, but most likely only self to blame.
Never mind articulation not everybody's forte. As clearly isn't yours. Probably be better to stick for checkers or domino's and a nice mug of cocoa.
That and an inability to properly converse in what i assume is mother tongue.
Sounds to me 'old timer' like you are reflecting own less than successful outcomes at the game of life . A trite sad, but most likely only self to blame.
Never mind articulation not everybody's forte. As clearly isn't yours. Probably be better to stick for checkers or domino's and a nice mug of cocoa.
Last edited by the troubadour; Jul 26th 2020 at 6:52 am.
