House auctions
#17
Re: House auctions
And most normal people wouldn't confuse 'sought' with 'sort' either, which so many real estate agents manage to do...
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Re: House auctions
Well considering the Sydney average is $900,000 odd, an agent is going to charge you the best part of $30,000. It could be a winner.
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They took that option away when the site was revamped some time ago.
I look at Real Estate - Find Property, Homes, Houses | realestateVIEW.com.au instead now which has the option to 'exclude auction listings'
I look at Real Estate - Find Property, Homes, Houses | realestateVIEW.com.au instead now which has the option to 'exclude auction listings'
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Well that possibly because the 'estimated price range' is in fact nothing of the sort!
e.g. using some recent examples I've been to, if the property is quoted at say 950k - 1.050M, it will probably not be 'on the market' until 1.2M. This is just the way it is and the agents get away with it.
Rule of thumb, if a property is quoted in a range, add 10% to the upper number and you are probably close to the reserve.
The worst one is the agents who quote as $xxx,000 plus. IME that generally means add about 30% to the quoted figure and you are near reserve.
e.g. using some recent examples I've been to, if the property is quoted at say 950k - 1.050M, it will probably not be 'on the market' until 1.2M. This is just the way it is and the agents get away with it.
Rule of thumb, if a property is quoted in a range, add 10% to the upper number and you are probably close to the reserve.
The worst one is the agents who quote as $xxx,000 plus. IME that generally means add about 30% to the quoted figure and you are near reserve.
Was there not some proposal to make estimates have to be in the 10% range? I know there was more rambling on about that up in QLD about 6 months ago. Not sure if it was passed but not so much goes to auction up there anyway and if it does it is usually no estimate at all.
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The stamp duty in Victoria makes it a very expensive process indeed .
Notice the concessions for first home buyers are being wound back too.
Cut throat competiotion for anything in decent areas, too many people not enough houses.
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Re: House auctions
come to Melbourne. Been to 3 auctions, all went from 137,000 to 152,000 over the estimated price range. Usually 3- 6 bidding. Scary stuff, these houses going around the seven to eight hundred thou are dumps, the one on Saturday, 200sq m land, demolish job, no off road parking. 6 fighting over it.
We have put ours on the market. Lets hope the final sale price is similarly off the mark of the ESR
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House across the road from us went on market in a lead up to auction with an ESR of $1.15-$1.25m. This was revised up to $1.25-$1.35m two weeks before auction. It sold at auction last Saturday for $1.875m.
We have put ours on the market. Lets hope the final sale price is similarly off the mark of the ESR
We have put ours on the market. Lets hope the final sale price is similarly off the mark of the ESR
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come to Melbourne. Been to 3 auctions, all went from 137,000 to 152,000 over the estimated price range. Usually 3- 6 bidding. Scary stuff, these houses going around the seven to eight hundred thou are dumps, the one on Saturday, 200sq m land, demolish job, no off road parking. 6 fighting over it.
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Re: House auctions
Went to 2 auctions yesterday and both went ahead. The first one was for a beautiful 2 story house with nearly four times as much living space as our old home in the UK - plus it had a pool. That was an interesting one because you could see one of the bidders was willing to pay whatever it took and ended up paying probably $100k more than I think was its true value.
The second one went well and reached what I would say was a fair valuation but ended inconclusively because the high reserve price wasn't reached. That one wasted everyone's time, I reckon.
The second one went well and reached what I would say was a fair valuation but ended inconclusively because the high reserve price wasn't reached. That one wasted everyone's time, I reckon.
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Went to 2 auctions yesterday and both went ahead. The first one was for a beautiful 2 story house with nearly four times as much living space as our old home in the UK - plus it had a pool. That was an interesting one because you could see one of the bidders was willing to pay whatever it took and ended up paying probably $100k more than I think was its true value.
The second one went well and reached what I would say was a fair valuation but ended inconclusively because the high reserve price wasn't reached. That one wasted everyone's time, I reckon.
The second one went well and reached what I would say was a fair valuation but ended inconclusively because the high reserve price wasn't reached. That one wasted everyone's time, I reckon.
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Indeed, but we're not going to them for fun. We've agreed a sale on our UK house so are getting up to speed with conditions here before buying.
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Yeah and we could have a few more months of this. Still, it allows us to broaden our suburb search a bit to include those that we'd previously excluded.
Based on what we've seen so far, I reckon the search for our perfect house is going to be a tough one.
Do any previous auction buyers have any do or don't tips?
Based on what we've seen so far, I reckon the search for our perfect house is going to be a tough one.
Do any previous auction buyers have any do or don't tips?