Holden to pull out of Australia
Dec 6th 2013, 6:52 am
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Re: Holden to pull out of Australia
This is the key for me on this issue - As the cost of fuels rise, the desire and need to have these large and thirsty cars is inevitably going to wane. The only real mass markets for these cars are Australia and NZ, and as people wake up to much more efficient motoring, it's not rocket surgery that people will stop buying Holdens.
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How on Earth does the size of the country influence the size of the car you need? That mentality has pretty much gone now and although the bogan taxis still have a kind of cult following most people see to car shop with their brains nowadays. Holden and Ford should have started building the cars people were actually buying years ago.
Dec 6th 2013, 7:20 am
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I think this says it all:
Dec 6th 2013, 7:20 am
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Oh, and under the careful ministrations of Joyce, Qantas has just been downgraded to junk status, after announcing 1000 redundancies yesterday.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-0...unceme/5139902
That's despite having an firm grip on it's domestic market the likes of which BA could only dream of.
Once again, it's bleeding the Australian cash cow to fund ill-advised expansion in Asia - then blaming workers when you finally kill off the Australia bits.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-0...unceme/5139902
That's despite having an firm grip on it's domestic market the likes of which BA could only dream of.
Once again, it's bleeding the Australian cash cow to fund ill-advised expansion in Asia - then blaming workers when you finally kill off the Australia bits.
Dec 6th 2013, 7:22 am
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Dec 6th 2013, 7:48 am
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Dec 6th 2013, 7:51 am
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Dec 6th 2013, 7:57 am
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Dec 6th 2013, 7:58 am
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Dec 6th 2013, 8:00 am
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One of my first cars was a Golf and I had another in the UK ten years or so ago. Endless problems with them both I've also hired a couple of Golfs over more recent years and both left me feeling dissatisfied. The last one was a year or two ago in SA - the original Citi Golf model. That one I couldn't change gear on turnings and the bonnet was so thin it rippled. Strangely, they seem to be quite sought after but I would never buy one again. I've never regretted buying Toyotas and Hondas
I wrote it off in an act of stupidity that was of biblical proportions
Dec 6th 2013, 8:04 am
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I love you boys - so funny 
Dec 6th 2013, 8:14 am
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I'm afraid I don't know how much a car costs to manufacture in Aus - Holden's wages look to be on par with Mars in the UK. Unless of course that doesn't include their penalty rates, and in which case it's higher than I thought
Edit - sorry, from what I remember froma colleagues pay at BMW, they would be a little lower at Holden, again assuming you've already factored in penalty rates
Edit - sorry, from what I remember froma colleagues pay at BMW, they would be a little lower at Holden, again assuming you've already factored in penalty rates
Dec 6th 2013, 8:18 am
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One of my first cars was a Golf and I had another in the UK ten years or so ago. Endless problems with them both I've also hired a couple of Golfs over more recent years and both left me feeling dissatisfied. The last one was a year or two ago in SA - the original Citi Golf model. That one I couldn't change gear on turnings and the bonnet was so thin it rippled. Strangely, they seem to be quite sought after but I would never buy one again. I've never regretted buying Toyotas and Hondas
Dec 6th 2013, 8:29 am
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Not convinced by that - he seems intent on persevering with the F-35 Joke Strike Fighter and the Collins 2. These will end up being two multi-billion dollar white elephant projects.
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Dec 6th 2013, 8:30 am
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Think that cleaned things up - can we knock it on the head now!
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Dec 6th 2013, 8:30 am
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